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Japan visitors fall for first time in four years as Chinese stay away (asia.nikkei.com)

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I wonder if our extremely xenophobic new PM will affect tourism and population age

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

Look how well it's worked for the US!

[–] Tuuktuuk@nord.pub 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay, why were the Chinese warned not to go to Japan?

[–] miseducator@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

New PM recognizes the sovereignty of Taiwan and took a stance at helping them defend themselves if need be. China got big butt hurt as usual.

[–] Tuuktuuk@nord.pub 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Okay... And what have they told the people as a reason for Japan being dangerous? "The leadership of China is butthurt, therefore Japan is dangerous" is not the most logical sentence one can utter.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

It's a cult, like MAGA in the US. Dear Leader says this, so you follow what he says, no questions asked.

[–] Flying_Penguin@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

I feel like i need to remind you that we are talking about a government's feeling getting hurt here. Nothing is logical in these conversations.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

You're over thinking. Whatever the Chinese government says, its citizens follow. China also did the same to South Korea many years ago of discouraging tourism, and it kind of worked and hurt the S. Korean economy.

[+] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world -13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's literally a part of China that was conquered by the Japanese and then by the Americans when they took over Japan. This is pretty straightforward.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And yet, today, Taiwan is a sovereign state and wants to keep it that way, which is the only thing that matters here. This is pretty straightforward.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The vocab word of the day is 'Finlandization'. The term comes from the fate of Finland after the Winter War with the USSR. It remained a sovereign state, in control of its own domestic affairs, but had its foreign policy making ability neutered in the post-war peace.

Taiwan is, de-facto, a sovereign state, despite recognition being limited, re: the one-China policy. This lack of recognition, however, means that Taiwan is highly limited in the foreign policy decisions it can make.

Generally speaking, Taiwan is in the orbit of US geopolitical interests. It produces Electronics components largely for western markets, and it's proximity to China makes it a strategic asset. So, if Taiwan decided to break off relations with the US, or enter into some kind of federation agreement with mainland China (things that are unlikely, but let's pretend they were to happen for a moment), such a thing would most likely not go over well. The US has carried out coups in countries for less.

So when @umbrella@lemmy.ml says Taiwan "isn't sovereign", this is what is meant.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Generally speaking, Taiwan is in the orbit of US geopolitical interests. It produces Electronics components largely for western markets, and it’s proximity to China makes it a strategic asset.

The US has carried out coups in countries for less.

could not have put it better myself.

[–] ylph@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Taiwan was conquered by China as well, in the 1680s. Taiwan was colonized by China only after it was colonized by Europeans (who arrived in early 1600s) - for most of its history it was inhabited by native non-Han aboriginals, who resisted both Chinese and Japanese attempts to settle the island in the 1500s.

Even after the Qing incorporated Taiwan into China, they didn't control the full territory - they largely left most of the mountainous areas inhabited by the aboriginals alone until late 1800s.

Qing gave Taiwan away to Japan in a treaty in 1895 btw - Japan didn't conquer the island militarily. The local population at the time wasn't happy about it, and even declared an independent Republic of Formosa to try to resist the Japanese colonization after being abandoned by Qing China, with tens of thousands of Taiwanese giving their lives fighting the Japanese.

America didn't conquer the island either - they forced Japan to surrender and give up claim to the island. With Chinese civil war breaking out, the issue of Taiwan was never fully resolved after the war, with ROC assuming control as presumed successor state of the Qing - nobody really asked the Taiwanese yet again what they wanted.

Taiwanese people should finally have the final word about their own country and sovereignty - they have their own unique history, culture and identity - Taiwan shouldn't be a plaything of empires and their imperial ambitions, be it China, Japan, America or Europe.

[–] miseducator@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Jackass tankies just can't help themselves when someone mentions Taiwan being a self-governing body. Get a life and maybe try a lobotomy.

[–] CMDR_Horn@piefed.world 8 points 2 days ago

My money is on the new PM

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 17 points 2 days ago

Ok, we can cancel the sakura event cancellation due to "misbehaving tourists" now, right??

[–] 3jane@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China does this to everyone, sooner or later

[–] hark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Does what? Stops visiting them?

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Dont worry Japan! Im going back in a month just tryna get my chedda up

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, certainly because of the Chinese and not because their government actively discourages tourism...

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Japan has shown their true colours and they're not any better than the Americans. The only difference is time: the Japanese are broken, conquered imperialists.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Japan has the same problem as the Americans too, an aging, voting population of xenophobic people that get what they want in elections because younger generations dont vote, dont care, or wont try to change anything.