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Where is the “I won’t support Genocide Joe” crowd now?
I voted for Harris.
But can you explain exactly how things would have gone differently in Gaza other than the rhetoric if Harris had won? She was all in on the genocide just like Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, etc.
Just because Harris was clearly the better choice overall doesn't mean she (and Biden) wasn't and isn't dead wrong about their fealty to Netanyahu.
Eating popcorn. Where are the dems who will fight for their constituents now? Looks like they just nearly unanimously passed a law that will let the administration take down any web content the want, not just revenge porn or deepfakes like they claimed.
So thats the end of free speech. Trump said outright he'd use it to censor his oponents. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/04/congress-passes-take-it-down-act-despite-major-flaws Did the dems just not have time for ammendments?
So was all this trumpery worth it all so the DNC could continue to take AIPAC money?
Or the Laken Riley act passed with dem support.
https://rollcall.com/2025/01/20/democrats-senate-laken-riley-act/
We're deporting anyone now, with democratic party support. They are even trying to use it on citizens. Heck of a job, DNC.
Or when the dems voted to advance trumps budget-- about the only card they had in their hand right now, and they just didnt use it. https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-democrats-voted-trump-gop-spending-bill-2045209
And now you want to what, fingerwag like you have a leg to stand on here? I mean come on man. Show me proof beyond Booker sitting on the steps in theatrical protest that the dems are working some angle thats not just secret support of anything the republicans want?
Surely thrilled that they were able to punish Democrats
I see — As long as the democrats suffer, it justifies the actual genocide that will take place on account of their decision.
It’s good to see the left punishing people who agree with them on 50% of things over people who agree with them on 0% of things. That is a recipe for success. Go team.
I voted for Harris, and voted for Biden before that, and Clinton before that. With shame as I should. Harm reduction, methadone instead of heroin.
It's nothing to brag about. You guys try to make them sound like a good choice, when neoliberals are for the same status quo, only minus the scapegoating. They're just a lesser degree of bad. They're for mass homelessness, they're for entire murder for profit economic sectors including American "Healthcare," they're for ever worsening income inequity, because on economic policy (that informs and often dictates social Ills) they're on the same take as Republicans. Just because they don't cheer and pour the blood they're drenched in over their heads in celebration like Gatorade, doesn't mean their hands are any cleaner.
That makes Republicans worth voting against, but you're praising Jack the Ripper in the face of Adolf Hitler. No American should feel anything but shame about only having a extreme right wing party and a fascist party as our only two options. No one should have left an American polling place with a smile or pride for the last half century.
They all realize they were part of a targeted disinformation campaign and regret their life choices.
Tbf though, Kamala could have gotten 4% of inactive voters in 3 key states she could have won. Instead those voters stayed home and now we've got front row seats to the end of an empire
It's not disinformation that Joe Biden enabled and aided the Genocide of Palestinians. Trump doing the same doesn't rewrite history.
Kamala could have gotten all those voters if she just took a stand against genocide.
I think the thinking was that turning against Israel more publicly would have mostly garnered more entirely worthless votes in states that are already blue and risked losing at risk rust belt states.
If those voters would have been a bit smarter they could have threatened to stay home but actually voted against fascism then continued to petition the incoming regime which unlike Trump isn't actually for genocide. Now there is a good chance for most of those folks you want to save being dead when its possible to reverse course IF its possible to reverse course and we don't have a canceled election and a civil war thereafter.
They were actually for genocide. That's why they partook in an ongoing genocide for over a year. Your entire premise is wrong.
Gone.
Their man, Trump, got elected, so they don't need to exist anymore.
Probably discussing the latest news about how Biden never pressured Israel for ceasefire
It was just another lie to give political cover as he aided and abetted an ongoing genocide.
Yeah dude, Biden totally got "political cover" about Gaza.
Well, at least Joe is out of power, now. Phew! Crisis averted.
No, Gaza is still being bombed. Children are being intentionally starved. It's still a crisis.
So you’re saying the current president is supporting Genocide? It’s weird, I don’t hear anyone on the left yelling about it. It’s almost like they don’t actually care.
Dude you're either thinking emotionally or being disingenuous. Take a step back.
tf? you are the one using this to aire a political grievance.
Not supporting Genocide Donald.
You say this like Biden was bringing an end to the Genocide.
Trump partaking in Genocide doesn't mean Biden didn't. It was just publicly revealed that Biden never demanded a ceasefire (as if we didn't know that already), Biden sent weapons to Israel to use in their genocidal campaign, Biden sent warships to ward off and defend against any attacks against Israel for their genocidal campaign. Trump doing the same doesn't mean Biden didn't do those things.
You so smugly using Trump's continuation of the genocide as a form of "gotcha" (again, as if we didn't know he would do that) is truly just absolutely morally gross and despicabe.
You deserve Trump.
The Israelis are the one's actually murdering people
Nobody said otherwise.
There they are!
You say I deserve Trump… like I’m the one suffering here. Question: do you honestly think Joe Biden would have permitted the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza? Would that even be a conversation right now? How about turning Gaza into a real estate opportunity for the sitting president?
I’m not the one suffering the brunt of consequences for your decision to elect Trump over Biden, it’s the Palestinian people who are. All of you made a choice based on principles that you don’t have the political power to support, and the result is one that is far worse for the actual people affected. That makes the choice morally inferior. And, it’s a shame to see what is happening to the people impacted by it.
"You say I deserve Trump… like I’m the one suffering here."
If you're American and not ultra-wealthy you are/will be, just like I will.
"Question: do you honestly think Joe Biden would have permitted the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza?"
Yes. Just as he was perfectly fine with them bombing everything from hospitals to schools usimg the weapons he continues to send and using genocidal rhetoric. You would have to be insane to think otherwise.
"Would that even be a conversation right now?"
No. It would just be another day of Joe Biden and the Democrats enabling the genocide while "liberals" sit by and let it happen and calling anyone who opposed it a crazy radical. Just like it was during the year long genocidal campaign he DID engage in.
"I’m not the one suffering the brunt of consequences for your the decision to elect Trump over Biden, it’s the Palestinian people who are."
This is the same blatant denialism of Genocide because Joe Biden was the one doing it I just critiqued.
If you can’t stand up against actively supporting an open genocide, you aren’t going to stand up for democracy.
America has been cooked. And yes, Biden is/was complacent
I hope when you're in the prison camp you'll understand that there may have been a slight chance to get Kamala to end the genocide, but there was zero chance to get trump to end it.
Has the united states been fascist for decades? Yes. But even the fascists knew there were limits. But maga fascists don't have limits, don't care about laws, don't care about what you think. Maga fascists only care about their own self interest, and if it hurts the citizens, or requires aiding a full genocide to build a resort, then so be it.
So please, enjoy your high horse, I'm sure the dead children of Gaza who might have had a chance of being saved under a Harris administration will understand and forgive you.
"Greater Israel" is not just about murdering palestinians, but more generally stealing all of the middle east.
https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-north-africa/
Just openly saying you want genocide. As you do.
Always have been.
Cant wait to see the response of the "its just against the terrorists" crowd
Israeliz are the terrorists with nukes in the area, it's uncanny how they keep flinging accusations and throwing American weaponry at everyone that doesn't like their land grabs
And blackmailing germany :(
why stop there?
I think Israel will not stop the war until its forced to do so.
Yeah, they’re still working on their final solution to this.
Probably provoke every neighbor until it's a big active conflict in the entire region and then say they're the only one capable of "maintaining peace" aka kill everybody so better start sending weapons.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution
I believe their comment was in reference to this.
So basically, yes. Kill everyone they can.
That’s a bingo.
Rome conquered the world in a war of 'self defense'.
They intend to expand a lot and be as globally independent as possible so they cant be punished for their crimes with trade sanctions.
What's their beef with Syria still?
Their beef is that Syria is actually Israel, just like Palestine, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, etc.
Thanks, I appreciate the sources.
Well, see, Syria has land they want and people they don’t.
They don't own it yet
Pretty sure they mean 'formatted'
The mean genocided.
I think it’s ~~funny~~ darkly humorous but read the room, dude.
Oof...
Not bad, but this is the sort of crass dark humor I would expect late on a Friday night after at least five beers with my friends.
Oh fuck off.