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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

The americans knew the ship was coming for a military exercise without ammunition, they couldn't just seize it and captured everyone and got the ship? I'm missing something?

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 8 points 58 minutes ago

They could've done that with Venezuela's "drug boats" too but didn't. That's because the goal was actually to kill people.

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 hour ago

You assume they wanted the ship or prisoners more than the death and suffering

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

First principles: Even assuming they somehow magically knew there really were no smallarms on the ship, why take the risk of getting stabbed or beaten with a pipe or trapping you and starting a fire or whatever. It would be another thing if the ship surrendered, but no reason to put yourself and your fellow soldiers at risk to go easy on your enemy.

Deeper reason: With long range missiles and drones being the primary threat to a ship, the biggest limitations are actually locating the enemy ship, tracking it and guiding the missile/drones towards it. Even a ship with no ammo can do that by relaying your position to another ship or shore based missiles/drones. So pulling your ship right next to an enemy one and having to stay there while your marines go board it is not a safe thing to do.

[–] ForestGreenGhost@literature.cafe 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

Capturing a vessel is very different than performing a boarding action. If the U.S. captured the Iranian vessel then there wouldn't be any risk of "getting beaten with a pipe" because the Iranian vessel surrendered.

~~Deeper~~ Dumber reason: Given the state of technology today and with all of the jamming, electronic warfare tech, and counter drone and missile stuff that the U.S. Navy has, it wouldn't make a lick of difference whether the Iranian vessel was right next to a U.S. warship or not.

Edit: lol at getting beaten with a pipe. Jesus fucking Christ. Get off of LLMs, they're clearly ruining your ability to reason

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm curious, what excuses will you make for the nazis when they're dragging you out of your house ?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -1 points 34 minutes ago

You think they live on a warship?

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 55 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fun fact: they were unarmed

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 172 points 6 hours ago (3 children)
[–] SammyJK@programming.dev 83 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

What the actual fuck? The US has turned into a parody of itself. It's sad to see.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It is my first belief that this is the point.

And Putin is quite happy.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, Putin probably enjoys this, but this is not trump alone. He has the support of the whole republican party, or at least 95% of it.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 32 minutes ago

He has support of the US. They voted for him and for his 'opposition' of cowards that can do nothing but watch cry crocodile tears.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I agree it's not but like AIPAC I don't think it's a stretch that the broader cartel that is the GOP realizes their reelection hinges on the bilateral relationship with Russia. They've been in cahoots for at least 2 decades or more.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well don't think he's that happy since his supply of drones most likely has dried up

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

If I understand right, ruzzia has long since started to develop and innovate domestically upon the design of Shaheds, and I don't think they were receiving that many relative to domestic production, though I agree it's a thorn in Putin's side presumably.

Though I have some other theories as to the bigger game being played here but just theories and speculation.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Well, when you elect clowns...

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

is this honestly a surprise? :(

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

IDK. Kind of sounds like some shit Russia would do. 😒

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well Russia didn't do it because they don't have the "fuck you" power that the US has. Russia sucks and is a huge danger, but this is absolutely not the time to whataboutism about them. I really hope you're being ironic, because otherwise it's just providing cover for mass murder.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I mean... there can be two murderous ruthless sadistic powers on earth. Three even! I'll let you choose the third.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 56 minutes ago

And whataboutisms do not help either case. They just muddy the water and derail the conversation. If you want to talk about Russia or China, the US fighting this awful war only helps other competing empires. Russia is more likely to carve further into Europe, China is more guaranteed to take Taiwan, and other countries will race towards nuclear deterrents even harder then they were. Many more people are dead and will die because of this path America has driven us into. It is horrific and America needs to be stopped to make everyone safer.

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The People's Dictatorship of Antarctica

[–] spadeworkandglory@lazysoci.al 1 points 21 minutes ago

Greenland! It's soooo obviously Greenland. It all makes sense now!

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

“russia would do” - when you say that to yourself remember that phrase is propaganda. it’s literally some shit the USA did do. Your “IDK” is cognitive dissonance.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

😖

Yes, it's us. We did this. WE'RE THE NEW RUSSIA!

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 8 points 5 hours ago

Sounds like some shit the US did do.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 hours ago

... Add yet another warcrime to the list...

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 41 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This is just the start. The old world broke once russia invaded Ukraine and we did nothing. Now other countries have realized that the world wont do anything if they also attack. Expansion has once again started. I expect Taiwan to be finished by summer too.

[–] AMoralNihilist@feddit.uk 16 points 5 hours ago

The old world broke when the US and UK invaded Iraq illegally in 2003. This is the natural consequence of that. If the people claiming to uphold them don't follow the rules because they are strong enough, then if we are strong enough we can do anything we want.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I get this vibe that no one knows what’s going on anymore and everything is just running on the fumes of the zeitgeist and conspiracy theories.

I find the fact that the whole world “knows” that China will invade Taiwan in 2027 to be really strange. And this has been the case for years. It feels like certain groups are taking it as a foregone conclusion.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 57 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It's weird how the US is turning into everything it fought against. Was fun while it lasted.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Can we stop inventing fake shit please? The US has never been a force against evil except for that one time 80 years ago.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 minutes ago

I think the op is talking about that certain time but ok

[–] dazzlingclitgame@lemmy.world 44 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Did we fight against it or did we hide our war crimes better?

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 7 points 3 hours ago

There's a reason at least half the world despises the US