It literally is.
Europe
News and information from Europe πͺπΊ
(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)
Rules (2024-08-30)
- This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
- No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
- Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
- No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, islamophobia, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism. We follow German law; don't question the statehood of Israel.
- Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
- If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
- Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in other communities.
- Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
- No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
- Always provide context with posts: Don't post uncontextualized images or videos, and don't start discussions without giving some context first.
(This list may get expanded as necessary.)
Posts that link to the following sources will be removed
- on any topic: Al Mayadeen, brusselssignal:eu, citjourno:com, europesays:com, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Fox, GB News, geo-trends:eu, news-pravda:com, OAN, RT, sociable:co, any AI slop sites (when in doubt please look for a credible imprint/about page), change:org (for privacy reasons), archive:is,ph,today (their JS DDoS websites)
- on Middle-East topics: Al Jazeera
- on Hungary: Euronews
Unless they're the only sources, please also avoid The Sun, Daily Mail, any "thinktank" type organization, and non-Lemmy social media (incl. Substack). Don't link to Twitter directly, instead use xcancel.com. For Reddit, use old:reddit:com
(Lists may get expanded as necessary.)
Ban lengths, etc.
We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.
If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 7 or 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.
If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the primary mod account @EuroMod@feddit.org
I only skimmed the article, but I am in Europe frequently. I go to the grocery almost every single time and rarely eat out. The food is better in Europe than in the US with the qualifier that itβs better at affordable prices. You can get decent stuff in the US but youβll pay more and the variety is limited.
The overall average food is less fucked with, less processed, and fresh foods are generally of better quality.
Well, except maybe the UK. I find it harder to get decent stuff there, a lot of the store is full of packaged carb-y junk like the US.
Shoot, food in Canada and even in South America is better than the USA. You have to really put effort into being healthy in the USA, especially when eating out.
I mean the typical American argument is that they don't want to eat healthy they want to eat a 3500 calorie cheeseburger
I'll never forget ordering a salad at the only place open late in the off season in the south of France (they served "american" food) and receiving the most delicious plate of chopped greens and vegetables I've ever had. It wasn't even my first meal in France. I don't think it would have been special to a local, it just tasted like food, not like the tasteless papery stuff I was used to.
Raw ingredients are just awful in the US, unless you shop directly from farmers, and every place you might eat out is supplied by the same very low quality company. Its honestly a bit of a nightmare and I think most people just don't know or try not to think about it.
There's a makeshift farmers market in a parking lot every Saturday near my mom's house. I text her a week in advance if im coming over to visit to get me veg and fruit. It's the only time the kids really eat their veggies and they love the fruit.
It's crazy how much better it tastes.
The US could learn something from Europe and Europe could learn something from Japan when it comes to healthy food.
In my experience I found that not only in Europe, but also in other continents the food is better than in the US. The reason? US people put too much cheap cheese on everything.
Because food is better in Europe than in the U.S.
Wish I could get affordable smoked salmon, comtΓ© cheese, and real baguettes in the U.S.
I just want unsweetened sandwich bread. Only Aldi seems to have it at a good price here, and they aren't everywhere
I don't know much about time management or ingredient prices where you are, but is it an option to bake it at home? I started doing that here in Scandinavia after getting angry at the pricing for brown seed-filled bread.
I actually hadn't considered that. I'd have to find a good whole wheat flour and have space for a bread maker, but thanks for that idea, I may try that, and add seeds of course.
Cause we have actual nutrition lessons in school
The whole article is just too many words to say
Because our legally mandated food standards are better
Legally Mandated
Rrrreeeeee COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!!
-- Average American
Why use more word when few do?
European food is better.
Why many words when few do trick?
D'oh. I knew it wasn't quite the right quote.
even less:
Europe is better
Feels like the headline is saying "some people" are wrong.
Around when I was 16, a bunch of really fit and slim girls from our town left to be exchange students in the US.
They all came back with roughly 10-15kg more than they had when they left. Said all bread tasted like dessert.
Nearly everything industrially made here is sweetened and it's formed a feedback loop where it ensures that's what "comfort food" tastes like unless it's homemade (even then many families cook with sugar in savory meals). And since that's what American food tastes like, companies coming in to American markets add hfcs to appeal to our tastes. Add in the fact that when cheaping out good old fashioned, highly subsidized hfcs is always a cheap crowd pleaser that can hide the flavor of substandard ingredients and processes.
Not being sweetened is more common in luxury and high quality pre made foods here, which means that they're culturally and financially separated from the average person. The alternative to saccarine foods is to cook, something we often feel we don't have time for and some will dislike because it tastes different. Also because "health cooking" has a well earned bad reputation here of things such as not using salt, cutting the fat off meat, and cooking tofu with no idea how to cook tofu well.
hfcs is always a cheap crowd pleaser that can hide the flavor of substandard ingredients and processes.
Not for everyone.
German tries American cola for the first time.
So do you think Americans are just lazier at cooking? But loads of that it also due to food deserts, which are much larger of a problem in the US than in Europe. Also, bad education.
I think food deserts play a role, but the biggest suspicion I have is partly how much time and energy winds up devoted to work. While it's nothing compared to say Japan or Korea, it remains common to dedicate 10+ hours of the day to work and related tasks. With what's left people often go for quick and easy options like takeout and frozen food. Poorer people also are more likely to have to work longer hours in addition to living in food deserts and having less access to reliable transportation.
But also our food culture changed radically in the 20th century. We were a young country, with a young culture when industrialization hit. When food production changed we got all on board. That recipe that's been in your family for generations is more likely to come from the Campbell corporation than the old country. And from there a lot of families since WWII didn't really teach their kids to cook. Maybe they taught a little, but the American monoculture's idea of foods is so generational that there isn't the sort of continuity Europeans have outside stuff like regional poverty foods (where every ingredient comes from a can). Frozen foods became extremely popular as women reentered the workforce in the 70s, and this became a huge part of American culinary habit with the famous "TV dinner"
Then we can talk subsidies. In the 1930s we passed a massive collection of governmental and economic reforms to deal with the great depression called the new deal. Among those reforms was massive subsidies to farming intended to prevent a repeat of the overfarming of the topsoil in our primary grain producing region as well as to ensure that small farmers wouldn't keep going bust. This ultimately resulted in us producing a metric fuckton of maize. To the point where if maize can do something, the only way it isn't the cheapest option is if petroleum or soy can do it similarly well. We have cheap cane sugar thanks to Florida and Hawaii, but hfcs is dirt cheap. These farming subsidies also are why low quality, standardized cheese is in everything here. Our government purchases dairy to keep it profitable to produce, makes generic mass produced cheeses with it to ensure it keeps, then sells it off en masse. Our government invented the cheese stuffed crust pizza to keep our dairy farmers afloat, same for every other fast food meal with too much cheese.
Do y'all learn to cook in school? Also yeah, some of us are lazier or less willing to spend limited energy cooking. I personally am rare in that most of my dinners are homemade. But I feel ascribing any cultural trend or trait to laziness is more easy than useful.
I doubt that Europeans are making healthier choices primarily from a bigger focus on education around food. I think they come across as better educated because they grew up with laws that encouraged certain food systems. I'd imagine they'd have an easier time naming the ingredients of the bread they eat than Americans could, due to laws. I think the education starts with the politics of the food system.
I'd imagine they'd have an easier time naming the ingredients of the bread they eat than Americans could
Uh, yeah, water, flour, salt and yeast.
But if you're talking about not cooking yourself, then you're saying Americans are lazier at cooking things?
I can assure you we have lazy people too, but it's clearly the regulation which is the issue in the US. Even my dad who was fat by our standards was just completely fucking mindblown of the shape of Americans when he helped them in a Moomin theme park he worked at (as a road train-driver, don't worry it's an equally confusing in whatever language you use).
This thing.

Said all bread tasted like dessert.
A friend of mine was couple times on a work trip in the USA back when Nokia was a dominant player on cellphones for a few months at a time. He often complained that his breakfast sugar could have used more juice/youghurt/bread/whatever. Also, while he was a bit on the heavy side and not a light eater by any stretch, the portion sizes around there were apparently just ridiculous everywhere and everything was covered in some form of grease. Either straight up deep fried or just buried in cheese/bacon/etc.
I don't think situation has much improved in 20 or so years.
Because European laws prevent food from containing chemicals that are toxic to humans
Having moved from the US to the EU recently (but having visited for 25+ years). Yes, the food is better in the EU.
The US food is over processed sugar infused sawdust unless you work hard to get specialized and direct from small farms sources.
Here in the EU I walk to any corner store or street vendor and it's consistently amazing.
Food Is Better In Europe Than In The US
This was 96.4% true until the UK left the EU. Now it's 100% true.
Oi, we have awesome food in the UK! (We also have a LOT of complete crap too)
Because it's true?
l guess a factor are also the different local habits for doing groceries.
Here in our home town in Germany we have three mid-sized full-range grocery stores within walking distance, so typically do shopping 3-4 times a week.
Makes it much easier to shop fresh products and stuff with more limited shelf life (this demand causes easily availability for these).
As I understand shopping in the US, it seems to be more typical to go shopping only once a week or so to the far away mega-store, making it less viable to buy much fresh stuff and also increases the need for products that have been treated to ensure longer shelf-life.