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Congress Passes TAKE IT DOWN Act Despite Major Flaws (www.eff.org)
submitted 4 days ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/news@lemmy.world
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Today the U.S. House of Representatives passed the TAKE IT DOWN Act, giving the powerful a dangerous new route to manipulate platforms into removing lawful speech that they simply don't like. President Trump himself has said that he would use the law to censor his critics. The bill passed the Senate in February, and it now heads to the president's desk.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The democrats pushed this through for the same reason they've pushed other bills to censor the internet, using piracy or CSAM as excuses. They aren't really trying to protect anyone, they want and need control over the population as much as the republicans do, so that they can maintain the cash flow from corporations that own them. So many people still look at the democrats as an opposition party to the fascists, but that isn't true at all. They work together because they're two sides of the same party. The only thing they're truly concerned with protecting is their own money and power.

Both the democrats and republicans are profoundly evil.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Republicans pass legislation through the two houses of Congress they entirely control, a Republican president signs it.

You: "The Democrats pushed this through."

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Your comment sounds pretty fucking stupid considering every single democrats who voted, voted yes. Now get that boot out of your mouth, you're embarrassing yourself.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It passed 409-2 and the 2 no votes were Republican.

Senate was unanimous.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Ok so 2 people out of 535 in Republican-controlled Congress voted against it, how is it accurate to say "Democrats pushed it through"?

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

I see how you got confused, let's try rephrasing it to "passed with unanimous democratic support".

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In what world is 2 votes against 400 making any noise? That is 0.5%, democrats surely make up far more than that.

So a majority of democrats voted for this.

They pushed it through.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago

My point is that it's very odd to focus on the Democrats specifically when Republicans brought the bills up for a vote, and Republicans also basically unanimously voted for it...more Republicans voted for it than Democrats, and a Republican president is signing the bill.

Republicans pushed it through, Democrats voted for it also. You are allowed to criticize either party for voting for it, but you are being inaccurate if you are saying the Democrats are disproportionately responsible for passage, as the term "pushed it through" means.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Every single democrat who voted, voted yes. The other democrats just refused to vote, instead of voting against it.

The funny thing is, I seem to recall every single democrat on Lemmy saying right after the election what not voting against Trump was no different than voting for him. Wonder when that changed.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 3 days ago

This reminds me of the DNC super donor Ed Buck who would lure in gay black men and kill them by injecting meth into them while raping them.

He managed to do it for years and wasn't until one of the victims survived to be able talk about it that he was sentenced as with every previous body it was said it was a private issue and a sad loss of a friend.
Photos managed to get shared of his racist, rape, death den helping sway the public.

Ed Buck would have loved this bill and its ability to actively scrub his image further.
If it feels like monsters would like something I don't want it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Anyone else hear thunderous applause?

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m confused isn’t this just for images tho?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

Visual medium and anything that can cause social distress or economic impact.
That's the basic wording of the bill which allows for a lot of wiggle room but true that we can still write mean things, but that was always subject to libel and then your photo evidence to go with your article can be censored.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Wait, US Congress still exists? Certainly wouldn't know it based on how the nation has been governed for the past 4 months.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

They exist for the important work of censoring critics.

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you want to see how your representatives voted

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why the fuck did all the democrats vote Yes for this

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because the mainstream democrats (the corpocentrists, mostly) believe that the tools of fascism and oppression are perfectly fine to keep around as long as they're wielded by enlightened leadership. All you have to do is simply never lose an election ever. Nbd. Why do they want to keep the tools of fascism around? Uh... (Hurriedly stuffing cash in pockets) Safety, terrorists or child molesters or something, look don't worry about it.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Call it what it is: a censorship law. Apparently the climate of fear that makes people self-censor wasn’t enough.

Watch for a LOT of ‘extreme left’ opinions get taken down and their authors imprisoned.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Any chance courts can stop this bill for being unconstitutional.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

The NSA mass surveillance program that Snowden blew the whistle on was found unconstitutional during Obama II. THAT SAME AFTERNOON, the Republican Congress and Senate passed the (I shit you not, this is what this MF is named) USA FREEDOM ACT that basically re-instantiated the program and Obama signed it straightaway. Turns out, they were able to get shit done quick and in a hurry when the shit was fascism.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And darlen AOC so called progressive voted for this shit.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As did Bernie.

[–] alucard@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bernie is in the Senate not the House of Representatives where AOC serves. How did Bernie vote for this?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Senate voted for it unanimously in February.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Politicians are still too afraid of optics, they don't want to be on record as voting against taking down revenge porn. Too many of these bills are written with a good-sounding premise but the details are where they get you.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 3 days ago

Yet they are happy to hand the criminal who is actively shooting people another loaded weapon because "optics".

They are the kind of people that say you should stay with a partner that rapes and abuses you because it might make family gatherings weird if you complain.
Fuck those people.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

rumor has it that AOC voted for this

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She's part of the problem.

We like to believe she isn't, but she's a proud consumer just like the rest of them.

She will never fight back against the culture of consumption until it becomes cool to do so.

I can eat for literal days, having several pounds of meat, for $15. Meanwhile she feels justified in defending spending $15 on avocado toast and her useful idiots support her because they're part of the problem, too.

All democrats become conservatives when their consumerism is threatened.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She absolutely was a progressive, until that corporate lobby money started hitting her bank account.

Now her bullshit is just performative, like all the rest.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

I guess. I have seen her giggle about the need of cheap slave labor.

She's just another capitalist who want her own comfort more than she wants what's best for others.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

OK so this is meant for revenge porn / stolen photos... but it's written so broadly that it will affect basically any online speech. Great.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Senate:

Unanimous Support

House:

207 Republicans and 202 Democrats voted Yea

2 Republicans voted No, 0 Democrats

11 from both parties abstained

WTF happened to resisting Trump's fascist agenda? This is blatant controlled opposition

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Trump's fascist agenda was always their agenda as well. They just weren't quite as openly racist about it. Democrats have oppressed minorities as much as republicans have, and it wasn't Trump that was sending riot police to crush peaceful sit-in student protests against genocide. That was a democrat, and was only the latest in a long line of truly horrible things the democrats have done in the name of fascism.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn’t this what the DMCA is for?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think you mean the communications decency act? Most of that has been found to be unconstitutional as will likely be the fate of this bill...

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Not with the MAGA Supreme Court on the job.