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New York just proposed the most invasive state-level age verification bill the US has seen. Senate Bill S08102 would extend age verification requirements down to the device itself: internet-connected devices, operating system providers, and app stores would all be required to implement what the bill calls “age assurance” before users can access their own hardware and software ecosystems.

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Meta is one of the lobbyists for the age verification bill.

Into the Metaverse: The Money and Motivations Behind Meta’s App Store Gambit

In May 2025, Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) and Representative John James (R-MI) introduced the App Store Accountability Act (ASAA), a bill that would require app stores to verify users’ ages and obtain parental consent for users under 18. Meta has bankrolled a wildly expensive lobbying campaign to enact ASAA and its state-level analogs, and instead of recoiling in horror at taking kid privacy advice from Meta, some lawmakers are credulously going along with it.

Confirmed by Bloomberg : Meta Clashes With Apple, Google Over Age Check Legislation

The struggle has pitted Meta Platforms Inc. and other app developers against Apple Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google, the world’s largest app stores. Lobbyists for both sides are moving from state to state, working to water down or redirect the legislation to minimize their clients’ risks.

This year alone, at least three states — Utah, Texas and Louisiana — passed legislation requiring tech companies to authenticate users’ ages, secure parental consent for anyone under 18 and ensure minors are protected from potentially harmful digital experiences. Now, lobbyists for all three companies are flooding into South Carolina and Ohio, the next possible states to consider such legislation.

in addition, there are Over 50 Child Advocacy Groups Unite to Demand App Store Accountability

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[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Brought to you by the state that passed gun clip size limits effectively making 99.9% of the standard issue carry for law enforcement illegal with no exception.

These people are morons and only concerned with controlling you.

[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Woah. Crazy how governments around the world are all doing this in lock-step.

It's almost like we're all being ruled by a handful of families haha.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 16 points 2 days ago

Yep but point it out and you're the crazy person 🙄

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago

This is a good example for how democracy under capitalism tends to serve the interests of the Epstein class above the rest of us.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a clearly coordinated attack on the civilians to get more data to sell and spy on them.

This isn't a coincidence that these bills pop around at the same time.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Agree. But it's "citizens" not civilians. "Civilians" are those that aren't military. Civilians are virtually everybody, police included. The USA started this double-speak ~15 years ago, where they pretend that police are military, and police aren't civilians. Please stop rewiring your brain by using their language.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 99 points 3 days ago (41 children)

Parents can age check their kids manually. We should not identify every user on the internet.

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[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 161 points 3 days ago (20 children)

... I really don't want to have to stop using all fucking technology now. Ffs this is absolutely disgustingly absurd. EVERYTHING GETS HACKED I am not tying my ID and real name to literally everything I do on an electronic device...

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 2 days ago

I hope Mamdani and friends oppose this piece of shit. It exists to erase sexuality that doesn't belong to the straight white dude, alongside filling the pockets of the wealthy by watching our every move.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can't believe all of you who are opposed to this.

Won't you think of the poor data brokers who's entire library of intimate personal details about every person who's ever used a smartphone is practically worthless without the ability to link it to your actual identity.

Screw the children, think of the shareholders you monsters.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

"Child advocacy groups", funded by billionaires.

If you can't see it, you need to peel back a few more layers.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 92 points 3 days ago

We're going to PROTECT Children by ~~Arresting Epstein's Associates!~~ ~~NOT Bombing Schools!~~ ~~Arresting ANY Pedophile in the Epstein Files!~~ ~~Making the BEST Childhood Vaccines available!~~ having Jeffrey Epstein's Friend Peter Thiel track Adults!

[–] mech@feddit.org 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hell, let's go one step further and force it on the user level:
Every time you want to access an online service, a government-appointed doctor comes to your house and does an X-ray of your clavicle to determine bone ossification, dental examinations, and a DNA methylation test to determine your biological age.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's very important that this happens every time, in order to catch anyone who ages backwards.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lobbying remains more powerful than carefully considered debate.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

snd more powerful than voting.

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Weren't the red hats the ones bitching about "the nanny state"?

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The same crowd that needs the second amendment to stand up to tyranny but are nowhere to be found when tyranny is actually happening?

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Christian fundie groups trying to get rid of porn on the web. Other groups seeking to eliminate anonymity from the web.

Meta is likely going along with it because it protects them from child vulnerability lawsuits.

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[–] FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, because those devices have age-inappropriate content already pre-installed amirite???

Honestly though, how the fuck do they keep justifying the mental gymnastics behind this, from a judicial standpoint? If you were to never set a foot on the internet after buying the device, there's no need for age verification; and even if you do, as long as you don't visit any site that hosts inappropriate content, it still doesn't warrant an age verification.

It's up to the content platform to ensure that no child visits inappropriate content. Think about it: a store IDs a person when they try to buy alc/tobacco, NOT when they just enter the store.

I can't believe this passes legislation just like that.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is like mandating that bicycles require age verification, since someone could bike to the liquor store and lie about their age.

[–] FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Kudos, that's an even better metaphor.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Politicians who unwaveringly support The King of the Pedophiles and a serial rapist think want me to believe they're "protecting the children."

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Children aren’t purchasing their devices, adults are, so why would an adult need to prove that they’re over 18? They can just state that the individual receiving the device is under 18…. Oh so you’re saying it’s not actual about the safety of children?

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[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

Fucking cockroaches

[–] pharceface@retrolemmy.com 9 points 2 days ago

What states aren’t trying to pull this bullshit? There have to be at least a few.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck these oligarchs trying to solve a parenting problem with technology and eroding everyone's privacy.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

trying to solve a parenting problem with technology

That was never the goal, just the excuse.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 33 points 3 days ago

before users can access their own hardware

So the New yorkers can't buy computers and mobile phones anymore.

So what.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Yay! More places where devs will just say you can't run their stuff.

I'm pretty sure I don't need to use anything built by a company so preoccupied with my birthday.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 17 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Go back to do everything on paper. No more invoice through email and payment. Demand everything comes on paper. Pay cash. It drives corpos and administration crazy to go back to old school systems. It'll probably do more than complain.

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