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[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Straight’s closed. You can’t sail there.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Yeah idk whats so hard to understand about "closed". Why does the crew not just refuse going there?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

There are a variety of reasons to be confused, even the entire oil market is confused.

Here are some reasons for confusion:

  • The Bendy of Hormuz is not closed, it's just closed to ships Iran doesn't like. Iran has somehow actually exported more oil since the war began.
  • Iran has told GCC countries they can use the Bendy if they don't allow US troops to stage attacks from their countries.
  • The maritime data is being spoofed. Pretty sure it's US allies doing the spoofing, they were making it look like there was a line of ships ready to cross, when in actuality they weren't even there.
  • The Trump admin straight up lied the other day and said they safley escorted a ship.
[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

I like calling it the bendy of hormuz

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's mostly incorrect. From the BBC link above, scroll down to find it:

Only four vessels identified passing through Strait of Hormuz this week - published at 16:01 By Joshua Cheetham

The latest data from the ship tracking firm MarineTraffic has identified a total of four vessels passing through the Strait of Hormuz since Monday, including two making the journey today [March 11, 2026].

From the same source, it's not spoofing, but jamming and disabled trackers causing the problem with actual ship tracking:

Tracking of these ships has been difficult as some may have been turning off their onboard trackers as Iran continues to target vessels in the region. Signal jamming in the region is also causing many ships to give misleading location data.

I can find no source that says anything about any line of ships waiting to cross, real or not. Probably because they don't want to get caught in the crossfire.

What crossfire? Iran is actively firing missiles at neighboring countries and hitting ships already in the Strait of Hormuz.

All that's a far cry from the selective closing you described, and I can't find any source that confirms any such deal as you assert between Iran and any country, GCC or not, that allows current access to the Strait of Hormuz.

But Trump did lie about escorting a ship, so you got that part right.

Why did you even bother? Were you just wondering how long it would take for someone to notice and correct you?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah? And why do you think those ships felt confident to cross?

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

In your world, where inanimate ships "feel" and that means something, there are no sources at all, and you can't provide any.

In the real world of legitimate news and actual sources, I was unable to find any source describing or relying on "confidence," but it doesn't even matter. Any confidence was unjustified. From the same source:

Four commercial vessels have reportedly been attacked in the region since the early hours of Wednesday, according to the maritime intelligence company Vanguard. Vanguard reports that Iran’s military has said two of these vessels - Mayuree Naree and Express Rome - ignored warnings not to transit the Strait without permission.

So much for confidence. Speaking of which, your ass is not a reliable source of information.

EDITED TO ADD -- so much for your non-existent agreement, denied by Tehran directly:

The Revolutionary Guards said Tehran would not allow “a single litre of oil” through the vital waterway until the US and Israel stopped their bombing campaign.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 18 hours ago

Iran has ports east of the strait, directly in the gulf of Oman

Because Trump keeps pushing them to do dangerous and stupid things.

[–] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think the Asian slaves on these ships are keeping up to global news on social media?

I doubt they havent heard of their colleagues getting literally bombed lol

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

You can make a lot of money if you make it.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago
[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 21 hours ago
[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

Moose out front should’ve told you.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Strait wisdom to be sure.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Despite the propaganda from the West, Iran is keeping the Straits closed indefinitely (except for their allies). This was signposted by Iran to try to deter the Zionist neocon warmongers but clearly they didn't care or take it seriously. Now we will all pay for Netanyahu's insane war with higher energy and food prices.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's not minimize the US Republicans culpability here. They bear just as much responsibility for all of this.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 18 hours ago

US Republicans had great incentives to do this, despite claiming to be pro-business. They're in the pockets of big oil, for one, and American oil producers are going to make big bank on the increased rates for crude oil barrels.

And that's on top of the whole "awlays doing what Israel says" factor.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There really isn't any "strait is open" propaganda coming from the US that I've seen. Everyone here knows it's down and out.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Only the five-second tweet from our Energy Secretary who asserted the US would escort ships through the strait.

Which was summarily deleted.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 hours ago

Yep. That was like the only thing I heard. Just him, who deleted it shortly after when it was debunked. Then he's also currently getting bitched at for trying to manipulate oil prices over it. That's it, out of the massive storm of news talking about how it's been shut down and oil prices will climb. Even from Trump's on maga tards and bought news agencies.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 19 hours ago

This is the current headline

Trump says US 'not finished yet' in Iran as Israel launches new strikes at Lebanon

I wish I could draw cause I picture Israel as a giant child just playing with missiles like toys to finally strike every country around it it has wanted to for years now and Trump is the neglectful parent just supplying more and not caring that there is very real fire spreading.

Its truly wild how much above us and detached our most influential are these days.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Straight’s closed because of drones

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Most of their mine laying vessels are at the bottom of the straight at this point.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They can mine it remotely with rockets.

[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you're making a joke that the rockets are the explosives or if they actually have rockets they launch that are like cluster munitions that drop a bunch of mines in to the water.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As far as I know, they have the capability to deploy minefields by rocket from long range. I'm not sure if we're talking the bigger MLRS or the smaller ballistic missiles, but it's certainly possible.

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know that for land mines this is true.

However it'd be interesting to know if its also possible for naval mines... which are a few magnitudes bigger and also usually rely on an anker (ofter heavy) to stay in position.

Given the high weight I'm sceptical if a naval minefield can be achieved by missle transport.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm going to have to look into it further. If it's a drifting mine, it could be a lot more compact and still do a lot of damage to ships. They would be less effective in theory, but all they really need is for the strait to be nominally mined.

[–] ThetaDecay@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"drifting mine" That's a nightmarish thought. Those will go everywhere, wash up on shore, go out into the Indian Ocean, whatever. I really hope that's not what's going on here.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago

You could presumably program them to self-detonate after a few weeks or months, but it would still present an unexploded ordnance hazard. I'm also hoping that they're got proper anchored mines, with detailed records of locations for postwar minesweeping, but given the situation they could just be throwing them all out there as quick as they can. It is after all an existential war for national survival on Iran's side.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

A missile could carry something as light as nothing or as heavy as ISS modules. And anchors don't even have to be that heavy, they just need to be denser than water and generate enough friction with the bottom to keep whatever is attached from moving too far.

Though they could even use catapults or trebechets mounted to the backs of trucks to mine it.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Mines, USVs (the suicide kind and the mine-laying kind), UUVs, Speedboats, drones, rockets, missiles. Before you shit-talk speedboats Iran has already tried and succeeded at attaching limpet mines onto the hulls of US ships (kinda as a joke/exercise) before this.

Oh and all of this is in tunnels, not sitting around on the water surface waiting to get blown up.

Did they identify the source as drones? It says unknown projectiles, so Anonymous Intercepting Devices. AIDs, if you will.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Remember the Mauryee… - !

Wait what was it called again?

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let the mother fucker burn, burn motherfucker, burn!

Unlike the roof, though, the Bendy of Hormuz DOES need water!