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‘Because of my Instagram posts?’ AOC swerves questions on 2028 presidential run
(www.independent.co.uk)
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It seems to me that the US is unfortunately too “-ist” to elect AOC.
If the Democrats were wise they would choose the next candidate now in order to get the party going in a specific direction, just like the Republicans have done unofficially from 2020 to 2024
If the Democrats were wise they would choose the next candidate now in order to get the party going in a specific direction
As though they haven't already chosen both the person and the direction. It's newsom and rightward, respectively.
I'm talking about officially doing their primary right now. Look at how it works in a parliamentary system, if a party loses its leader there's an official interim leader taking their place until a new one is selected and that leader/interim leader is officially the one choosing in what direction the party is going. The party doesn't spend 3 years leaderless leaving the other elected officials do whatever they want.
I’m talking about officially doing their primary right now.
Yeah, they're not gonna do that. Not in public, at least.
As a Democrat, no one has ever accused my party of being smart.
perhaps, but democrats are held to a higher standard
any tiny misstep - or even correct step that the republicans figure out how to spin - over the next few years would poison the waters
By this logic the Dems held onto Biden and then Harris with the intent to loose the election. Which... kind of makes sense given how they were more focused on keeping progressives out, as these seem to be the real danger from their perspective, not the fascists under Trump.
sorta sounds like they needed to fix that problem
I want AOC to be President, but I think Americans are too sexist to vote for her. We're a callow, superficial people.
We also thought Americans were too racist to vote for a black man.
IMHO, Americans will always prioritize swagger, the ability to clearly call bullshit, and the ability to generate hype and a sense of connection.
This is why Americans vote for celebrities and actors.
I kind of see where you're coming from - there's an imperfect fungibility of bigotry. If you're bigoted against one kind of person, it's not hard to make you bigoted against another, it just takes a little propaganda.
But it's not a secret that young men broke for Trump by over 10%. I attribute that swing to the manosphere podcast circuit working round the clock this past election, and Elon Musk purchasing voters with his "sweepstakes."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Exit_poll
2020, Biden: 81,283,501 2020, Trump: 74,223,975
2024, Harris: 75,017,613 2024, Trump: 77,302,580
These numbers suggest that not only did more people vote for Trump than in 2020, even after living through the fucked COVID response, even after seeing January 6, more people chose not to vote at all. And it's a 50/50 split: Trump converted 3 million votes from Biden, and 3 million more just stayed home.
And if you really want to see an election where people stayed home. Check out 2016.
And demographically, the biggest swing towards Trump was Latino men. It was like 18%, that seems insane to me. I don't think "eggs and Palestine" is sufficient to explain what happened there.
The night of the election they say that exactly but Zionist want to blame Palestinians.
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This line is coming from neoliberals who can't understand why Hillary and Kamala lost and are blaming sexism because they can't come to terms with the fact that the American people are turning away from the establishment in its entirety.
Yes, sexism is a problem in America. No, it is not why liberals are losing.
American people are turning away from the establishment in its entirety.
Biden won 2020, and I think it's safe to say he was fairly establishment.
Edit: And as much as we want to forget, Trump was President of the United States from 2016 to 2020. He IS an establishment candidate. He wants the establishment of an authoritarian fascist regime that unlawfully, violently silences his critics and imprisons or murders the minority group of his choosing.
Call me what you like, but I think you have more in common with me than with MAGA. And if your IFF is malfunctioning, well, I hope you get it checked out soon.
Biden won 2020, and I think it's safe to say he was fairly establishment.
Barely, and only coming out of Trump's first term that had many people looking for a "return to normal." The Democratic party will never succeed running another Biden every election. The people can see that the status quo is not working for them, and they're fed up with corporate dems telling them that we need to preserve the status quo at all costs.
Call me what you like, but I think you have more in common with me than with MAGA. And if your IFF is malfunctioning, well, I hope you get it checked out soon.
I didn't call you anything. I can see that you're my friend, but the establishment and all the politicians who fight to preserve it instead of fighting the fascists in power are foes, and the sooner you realize that the sooner we can work together to change it.
Not all of us. Dudes for AOC!
I want AOC to be president, and think that the "Americans are too sexist to vote for a woman (now that a progressive woman might run)" argument is being used to hold back all women in order to hold back one woman.
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I want Tim as president and AOC as vice since I dont want to risk the bunch of idiots who wont vote for a woman fucking everything up again.
Kamala's campaign wasn't fucked because she's a woman, it was fucked because she's a careerist who doesn't believe in anything.
Two things can be true.
I know a lot of women who didn't vote for her because she was a woman. Shit is crazy to me, but that doesn't mean it's not the reality. I'm sure there are a shocking number of people who didn't vote for her because she's a woman.
I know the party is willing to hold back all women on the off chance that they are successful at holding back one progressive woman. That's all this is about. Hatred for progressives and the people they stand for.
Yeah, conservative women are a really odd breed. I live in the Deep South, which means I get to actually interact with all of the hardline conservatives on a regular basis. I have 100% heard the “I just think a woman’s place is to follow her husband” rhetoric from women.
Those will vote Republican anyway...
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She will run, and the DNC will sheepdog her like they did Bernie, keeping everyone herded up in the party until they realized they got fucked over, again.
Bernie’s being doing some rallies with her recently. If I were to guess, Bernie’s not going to run for POTUS again, he’s going to endorse her.
Bernie could get the VP nod.
Personally, I prefer Bernie as the main - we need as many years of progressive presidencies as possible. Having 8 of them with him as the lead, and another 8 of AOC, would be a good start to reforming America. Odds are, though, we will simply have AOC replace Bernie during one of his terms. VPs are meant to be backups for when a president isn't able to hold office anymore.
I would prefer Bernie as the main too, but given his age and heart condition, that's not viable. :(
If we could stop floating ancient and/or billionaires, that would be greeeaat.
Bernie is the one exception though. The only exception.
I love Bernie and I would vote for him if he were on the ballot, but he has no business being president at this age. I think he recognizes that and that's why he's actively helping the new generation.
he has no business being president at this age
Things we can say now that biden is no longer running.
You ain't wrong, but I said the same thing about him. Almost exactly. The biggest difference is I wouldn't have to hold my nose to vote for Bernie, I genuinely like the dude and my policy quibbles come down to quibbles.
Rant incoming.
Hell, the DNC may run Bernie now that he's old enough. Or they'll pick a cop to lead the ticket where their side doesn't like or trust the police. Anything as long as they don't win. Their last big winners were Obama and Clinton, both of which were in their 40s. Can't make that fucking mistake again I guess. Even on the R side it's been middle aged people rather than geriatric motherfuckers since Reagan until Trump. When the fuck did someone decide that you can't be president unless you were a billion years old? I want someone who represents the future and wants to take us there, not someone whose slogan is "I've seen the future, and it's a better past....which I also saw because I lived through all of human history".
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I'd rather she primary Schumer.
That’s probably the more impactful move if she were to win.
AOC Pres with Tim Walz VP would be great
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