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I don't know about y'all, but if I grew up in a country that never has the news criticizing its leaders, I'd be very skepical and deduce that there is censorshop going on and the offical news could be exaggerated or entirely falsified. Do people in authoritarian countries actually just eat the propaganda? To what extent do they believe the propaganda?

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[–] omxxi@feddit.org 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This can be controversial, but my opinion is that religious education normally is the opposite of critical thinking. If you teach the kids to accept beliefs just based on faith, you're killing critical thinking.

[–] Live_your_lives@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's not religion that's the problem but ideology and lazy thinking in general. How many people in the political parties we oppose just accept the lies being fed to them with no critical thought or investigation?

[–] omxxi@feddit.org 10 points 5 days ago

My point is that religious education trains the kids to believe things without verifying facts, even unbelievable fables. I'm just trying to point a potential source of what we know is a big problem.

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[–] rekabis@programming.dev 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Something like host over half of all Americans cannot read above a 5th grade level. Almost a third are functionally illiterate.

It’s not that they don’t have critical thinking skills. It’s that the entire lower-90% have been so badly nerfed that it is increasingly difficult for anyone in that cohort to get to a point where they can educate themselves without copious assistance.

And that’s exactly how Republicans prefer the population - uneducated, illiterate, ignorant and gullible. The better with which to scam them for their votes.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago

People focus their energies on getting through the day for the most part of their lives. It is very hard for people to muster the time and energy to paying attention to politics, let alone ideologically political propaganda.

The vast majority flat ignore it entirely and remain in an apolitical state. This is a primary function of propaganda: insulating people from political action or thought that might alter the status quo.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Seriously, if you are AWARE of propaganda, you are also aware that you have been influenced by it. Propaganda is pervasive in civilizations. It is simply manipulation. TV ads and guys trying to pick up chicks are everyday uses of propaganda.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I go on Reddit and come here and I nod along and I'm like yes, yes, and then I leave and sometimes it feels like coming up from being underwater. We are quite literally surrounded in propaganda. It has never been easier to disseminate opinions, especially when the majority of our communications (mine for sure) come via text on a screen. It is in every single facet of our lives.

And so I talk to my brother and he always tries to get me to think more, he's a smart guy. He says things like "Who benefits the most" from whatever, opinion I've talked to him about, and so frequently it goes back to corporations. I don't want to get overtly political, but personally the best way I try to think about things is linearly: this thing we are talking about, trace it to its logical end point and origin. And then feel helpless again.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Propaganda doesn't necessarily need to convince people, but can instead attack the peoples ability to differentiate truth and lie by sowing mistrust about the most mundane and conventional things. When people stop believing their own eyes or following logic, they become easier to manipulate. A bit like gas-lighting, where you sort of turn the critical thinking against them, but on a large scale.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

Decision fatigue is a real thing. Ask anyone who sat through three tests in one day; even if you have studied the material, it's hard to focus after a while. It's easy to fill our day with minutia that distracts us from the impostant issues.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's so nice of you to tell us what would you do and how you'd behave in an hypothetical situation that you have never been nurtured and raised on, and how good you'd do facing it under your current morals and mental framework that may or may not be available during that situation

Good times, critical thinking was had by all

Intelligent people in those countries do realize though...

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I find way too many people talking about "common sense" as if that was even a thing. It frustrates me to no end.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

"common sense"

A set of assumptions(usually false) acquired before age 12.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Do you believe in religion? Do you believe in any home remedies? Do you eat the same foods you grew up with?

It's a very rare person that questions literally everything and logically analyzes why they think what they think.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

As someone who has always done this, this has been a very hard lesson to learn. It doesn't make sense to me how you can go through life and NOT do that. Like.... Fuck dude... I just feel like everyone is so fucking DUMB. Like I don't want to be narcissistic and shit but Jesus people .... Maybe try a little??!?!

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[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

Many of the United States have removed teaching critical thinking from their curriculum.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago

"Think twice? I don't even thinks once."

[–] blinx615@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

If you believe you're the only one feeling this way you're likely to doubt yourself. If it's dangerous to voice how you feel, you won't hear that others share this skepticism.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

A lot of people don't think. But a lot of people do think critically, and they just think differently from you or me.

If we believe nobody thinks critically, how can we even begin to effect change?

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

Critical thinking has been an increasingly rare skill, partially because people are focusing on conspiracy theories instead.

[–] Yermaw@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was idly thinking about this the other day, how absolutely lonely it must be in say North Korea, where if you're caught by the regime to be thinking the wrong thing you'll get killed. I'd know its bullshit, but I'd be terrified of speaking out or asking questions, incase the person I'm speaking to is an agent of the state, or will suspect me of being an agent and inform the authorities incase I'm testing them.

It must be awful not knowing who's a secret police, who's a gullible rube for buying the propaganda and who's just hiding behind forced conformity.

I don't think many of them will believe the propaganda, but I bet the ones who do will be the happiest. Or least miserable I guess.

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