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‘He’s lied about everything’: Iran war puts Trump on shaky ground with young MAGA men (www.politico.com)

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GRAPEVINE, TEXAS — Joseph Bolick feels betrayed by President Donald Trump. And it’s because of the war in Iran.

The 30-year-old Iraq and Afghanistan war veteran voted for Trump in 2024. But at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference gathering this week he sported a hat emblazoned with “America First” — a slogan Trump championed during his campaign, along with the promise not to start new wars in foreign countries.

“He’s lied about everything,” said Bolick. “If you go into a war where there’s no end game, how is it going to end? There’s no clear objective.”

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 175 points 2 months ago (10 children)

So the war is the straw that broke the camel’s back? Not that he’s a rapist or a convicted felon? Not that he let Musk destroy the government? Or that ICE is running rampant kidnapping and killing Americans and people of other nationalities? Or that he illegally sunk foreign boats in international waters? Or that he is trying undermine the constitution they hold so dear? Or that he raised the cost of living? Or he killed a million Americans by pretending Covid wasn’t real and told people to try stupid things?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago (1 children)

him being a pedophile racist dictator with a long documented history of lying and grifting was a good thing for his supporters. they saw him as relatable.

the problem for them is that gas prices went up. so now it affects them a little bit.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the young Republicans boys don't want to be sent to war ! They may be stupid but they know who gets sent to wars.

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[–] Ooops@feddit.org 54 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No, it's not.

This is just the 100th iteration of "this time they will really start to criticise Trump". And then the cult gets new orders and instantly they will fall silent and shift their opinion as instructed to match their new reality.

These people really took 1984 as an instruction manual.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 16 points 2 months ago

Yup. 79% of Republicans approve of how Trump is handling the Iran War. No reasonable and informed person can hold that opinion - we are not dealing with serious people here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3w384px52no

[–] orlyowl@piefed.ca 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is just the 100th iteration of “this time they will really start to criticise Trump”.

Yep. I've stopped thinking any straw will break the camel's back of maga. They seem willing to accept literally any behavior from him. Every one of these articles about disillusioned trumpers never seems to have a basis in more than one or two anecdotal examples. These headlines exist only to provide copium (or maybe hopium) to the rest of us.

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[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

He will still vote Republican in the midterms and in 2028.

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I keep seeing this pattern. I think a lot of former supporters are really sick of his shit and are just looking for the most politically convenient excuse to finally break with him. E.g. Joe Kent.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So... revelations around him being a child predator is not a politically convenient excuse to break with him?

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Sadly, high gas prices and a correction in the stock market are somehow a bigger deal than being exposed as a child rapist.

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

Keep in mind that many of these MAGA folks are in a tribe that will make excuses for anything their idol does, and the tribe will follow because that is what a tribe does. They are in a tribe because they are weak people, mentally and morally.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I hope this is why

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

How about the thing these dumbasses really pretend to care about - spending? This moron has spent almost 6 TRILLION fuckin' dollars since he returned to office and inflation is through the roof (just like last time you fucking geniuses!) but I'm gonna need a crystal ball to know who they're going to blame it on because he hasn't been elected yet. Whoever they blame, you can bet his last name won't be TRUMP.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago

For many, they believed him when he said those were lies and political attacks.

Basically everything related to the Iran War however is easily demonstrably false. And the ramifications quick and obvious to the average person. It's one of the reasons the admin is working so quickly to prevent news reporting they haven't approved about it.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

They only recognize schadenfreude when it bites them in the ass.

[–] trublu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

I was gonna throw another few out, but the truth is you could keep going forever. There is no bottom to his depravity, and there is no limit to his criminality. Any list, no matter how exhaustive, would come up short.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

War affects their pocketbook in a more concrete way.

These people have always been selfish.

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[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 months ago (4 children)

A 66 percent majority of older MAGA men are willing to sacrifice American lives in order for the U.S. to achieve its goals in Iran, compared with less than half of younger MAGA men who say the same.

Yeah no shit. The younger guys are the ones who are gonna get shot and blown up.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What goals would those be? Would it be opening the Strait of Hormuz? Or how about an Iran without nuclear weapons?

Funny how we had both of those "goals" before the shitgibbon started the war.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 26 points 2 months ago

The goal is avoiding punishment for raping all those children over the past 40ish years

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Excuse me, its now the Strait of Trump. Did you not watch the God Emperor say so yesterday?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did he actually say that?

I stopped paying attention for like 5 minutes and he does about 11 stupid things.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 6 points 2 months ago

He did: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/27/trump-strait-of-hormuz-iran-war.html

Can you imagine the screeching of Fox News, if Obama had done that even in jest? And Trump is not joking, Trump never "jokes".

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Translation: A 66 percent majority of older MAGA men are willing to sacrifice ~~American~~ other people's lives.

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 months ago

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 11 points 2 months ago

And the younger MAGA men would also support it, as long as it was guaranteed to be other young men and not them specifically.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

30-year-old veteran, eh? The real "leopards ate my face" is gonna be when he gets called back up and shipped out.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

I mean, why else do we think this was the final straw?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

Because…

as usual

It’s finally affecting them personally. Gas and diesel prices are rising. Wait until food starts to go higher again.

[–] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 months ago

If only he had a lifetime history of pathological lying to serve as a warning flag.

[–] Retail4068@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 months ago

puts hand in fire

Ow! The fire that we were warned incessantly to be excruciatingly hot, burned our other hand once already, then incessantly warned would burn us again if we did the same thing, just burned is again when we did the same thing! 😢

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every Democrat:

I've been telling you for years gif

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sitouts: yea but we need to save gaza! Fuck all of the countries! And especially fuck ourselves!

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A 30-year-old Iraq war veteran? That math ain't mathing

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

(Checking)

Iraq war ended in 2011. If you were born in 1996 (to be 30 today) you would be 18 in 2014, well after that war ended...

So either the article is 3+ years old, or calling the person 30 was rounding down.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

American troops pulled out of Iraq this year, so I imagine anyone stationed there who was involved with the post war (i.e. ISIS) are considered 'Iraq' vets.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

I guess there would be a distinction between serving in Iraq and be an "Iraq war vet" which has more specific requirements.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think "shaky ground" is doing a lot of work here.

The head of the "you're hurting the wrong people" party will have those chronically online young MAGA men back in his good graces with ease. All it takes is one situation where these men are faced with a situation where they are asked to acknowledge transgender people as human beings, or lord forbid, a black pilot is flying their plane.

Besides, if those things never happen, it still won't matter. The thing about chronically online young men is that next year there will be a new crop ready to replace the ones that got shipped off to die or be crapped on after they come back disabled.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (5 children)

They aren't turning on him. He's not on shaky ground. You people are damn fools I'd you believe that.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Most Republicans are not turning on Trump, true. But it doesn't take more than ~5% switching from Republican to Democrat, to make Republicans never win a national election again.

Looking in from Europe, the immovability of US voters is quite bizarre to me. Most people I know don't have being a "Republican" or similar as part of their personal identity.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If you voted for Trump again in 2024, thats on you. Anybody with half a brain knew he lies as naturally as he breaths.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"Read my lips, no new wars"?

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

President of Peace

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[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago

It's interesting watching it. A lot of conservative voters are old enough to remember the shitshow of the Iraq war and I wonder if that's part of what's making them sweat

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Huh. I guess they don't appreciate Trump's mastery of 3D chess after all.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nah, Their hate for womens choice and that choice isn't them will keep them voting for hate.

[–] atkdef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"America First"? Trump is not wrong, he simply didn't tell you the verb. "Sell America First".

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