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'Go get your own oil!' Trump tells UK the US won't 'help you anymore' in furious rant (www.rawstory.com)

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Donald Trump erupted at the United Kingdom Tuesday morning over its refusal to join the United States in its war against Iran, issuing the European nation a notice that the United States would no longer be offering it “help.”

“All of those countries that can’t get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you: Number 1, buy from the U.S., we have plenty, and Number 2, build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT,” Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 86 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

He's so incredibly stupid; honestly the biggest moron I've ever seen in any government.

He started this war, he didn't think it through - it was well known attacking Iran would lead to them closing the strait of hormuz, and it would be extremely difficult to open it without a ground invasion. Israel has wanted to go after Iran for decades but every US president had common sense and said no. Trump has done what no President has ever done. The US allies are not stupid enough to be drawn into the this pointless war as it's unwinnable.

Now this so-called "business man" doesn't even know how global markets work. You remove 20% of the oil supply, then prices go up because demand goes up - you still have 100% of demand. The US isn't protected from that as a net shale oil/gas exporter.

First: everyone in the world is bidding for oil and gas supplies so it goes to the highest bidder; thats how a market works - everyone ends up paying more including americans. Second: the US is a net exporter but it also imports a lot of gas and oil. It's exports are driven by Liquid Natural Gas. But it imports Crude Oil, because it can't produce enough of that for domestic demand. Third: As energy prices go up, you get "demand destruction". In other words, some activities are no longer economical as the price of oil and gas is too high and obliterates profits. That means the global economy goes into decline - a recession. And the US is in no way insulated from that - it is totally integrated into the global economy.

Trump has fucked over the US, allies like the UK, Canada and EU and the rest of the world. This isn't his allies' war, and they're not getting involved - it's politically toxic and it'd just escalate this mess. Trump can get frustrated at the mess he's made and lash out as much as he wants, but he can't get away from this mess. He has two choices and both are shit: Invade Iran with troops or admit defeat and cave into the Iran's demands. I suspect he will cave in and try and spin this as a "victory".

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Small correction: US consumers and businesses will be hit. The US oil & methane gas industry and their billionaires will pump out as much as they possibly can and sell to the highest bidder at ridiculous prices.

And there as many, many times before, we have one of the biggest reasons for this war.

Is it stupid? Yes it’s still stupid. But the better question is: is it evil? Even more so than you already thought.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

Sounds exactly like what his admin did with PPE during COVID.

Except now the whole planet is stuck essentially Ebaying for essentials or paying Iran's tolls.

[–] jason@discuss.online 7 points 15 hours ago

Yup. Same thing happened when Russia invaded Ukraine. The US got a negligible amount of oil from Russia and prices still spiked. Gas and oil are global commodities.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We (the UK) don't need oil from the Strait of Hormuz. Most of that goes to Asian countries.

They're far more likely just to pay Iran a nominal amount to keep it flowing.

The UK actually imports more from the US than anywhere else. We should stop propping up tinpot regimes, and buy from local friendly countries, or better still, just use a lot less of it.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

or better still, just use a lot less of it.

Ultimately that would be the winning strategy.

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 183 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (6 children)

I'm beginning to think the hardest job in the entire world is Secret Service Agent. I mean, c'mon, millions of lives are at risk, you're armed, and he's right there. Instant hero. /s

Edit: forgot /s. Obviously.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

I used to think that they are defending the office, rather than the individual. And that is the honorable thing to do regardless of the person. But when you see them assisting that person to stage an assasination, I realised they are in the cult too.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 13 hours ago

The problem is that the SS is staffed with people who think Trump is the good guy. Lots and lots of "patriotic" Mormons.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 63 points 20 hours ago

True story.

My buddy used to work for NYC EMS. One day when Clinton was President his ambulance was assigned to an event. He and his partner were chatting with the police when some Secret Service agents walk by. The partner starts ranting about how much he hates the Secret Service.

One of the police asks him what the Secret Service did that was so bad?

"This bastards say they'll jump on a grenade for the President, but not one of them jumped on Monica! God damn it, I'm willing to take a blowjob for my country!"

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 29 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Because it went great for the Roman Empire when the Praetorian Guard were the ones choosing the Emperor. You don't really want to open that door.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There's a difference between a military coup and a rogue secret service agent killing the fuck and turning himself in.

He'd sacrifice his life and be arrested and tried, he'd have Luigi level fanfare (though Luigi didn't do it, obviously) and a clear conscious to help him sleep better at night in prison.

Being not a military coup, it might actually trigger the violent stage of the arguably ongoing civil war, Vance declares martial law and his children and top supporters start calling for the execution of everyone who ever condemned him as retribution.

The current collapse of the US empire is fast, but it sure as fuck can accelerate. People who think Trump dying solves all problems are heavily over indexing on him as the singular bad guy, he's just a loud symptom of a nasty disease.

[–] guy@piefed.social 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The US has tried assassination of it's presidents twice already. No matter the lunatic in charge murdering democratically elected leaders is not the way. There are mechanisms to pursue Trump that should be used.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 12 hours ago

So it wouldn't have been right to kill Hitler even though he took dictatorial control? It can easily be argued that once a democratically elected leader moves to nullify elections, purges non political government positions, and starts to ignore the authority of other elected positions, that their contract as a democratic leader is null and void. We're already there with Trump on all accounts. Him starting a war without congressional approval should make it obvious that he will take every shred of power the other branches have left given enough time. His position isn't the only one we vote on, but he will ensure that no other result matters.

Besides, he plans to stay in office until he dies, and if he corrupts the military with enough loyalists by 2028, he'll succeed. The only mechanism to remove him will be him dying and hoping his replacements are too weak to maintain the grift. I don't say this as a call to action, but a statement of fact.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There's a lot of rot, but they've been depending on a cluster of personality. Those often collapse when the personality dies without a sucessor with popular support, which requires the cult leader to groom the public to their sucessor.

The thing with Trump is he has too much ego for that, and Vance doesn't have the loyalty of the MAGA militant.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 hours ago

I'd expect this will escalate quickly once Vance takes power. He doesn't have the car salesman personality Trump has, and I don't think he'll maintain the MAGA following but Peter Thiel put him there for a reason. Vance will have to speed it up.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

Right, which is why they would kick it up a 100 noches. Once he's gone, they'll use everything in their power to remain in power, they won't just go away silently.

Vance doesn't have the loyalty, which is why Trump's kids will rile them up on the idea of revenge, they won't be fighting for cancer, they'll be fighting for Trump "alongside" Vance.

Democrats will condemn the violence of the assassin, they'll call for unity and give long eulogies for Trump, they'll say it's time to unite and denounce violence. Slowly, Vance will become the new figure head, or be replaced through a coup if unable, but the power won't change. The coup won't come from opposition, it'll come from within.

History gives us plenty of cases where killing the strongman did not end the system. Caesar’s murder helped trigger civil war and an “avenge the leader” politics. https://www.history.com/articles/julius-caesar-assassination-fall-roman-republic

Park Chung-hee’s assassination opened a succession crisis that Chun Doo-hwan used for an internal coup under martial law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_South_Korean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

Trujillo’s killing did not kill the machine, his family and loyalists tried to preserve it amid chaos. Indira Gandhi’s assassination becme a pretext for mass revenge on a broader population. https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v05mSupp/dr_d21

So yes, cult regimes are vulnerable when the central personality dies, but that vulnerability often shows up first as repression, martyrdom, and a fight inside the ruling group, not a clean collapse.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 35 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Once again the "most powerful military on earth" has to beg for help to defeat a single rogue state, and throws a tantrum when they don't get it.

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 196 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Meanwhile the UK is hosting USA bombers. Grow a pair - kick them out and close airspace until they show some gratitude.

European nation

Not if some of them can help it.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 74 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

As with most developed "democracies", the UK's political class are too busy cashing the cheques of their corporate overlords to display any actual morals or virtue. They are bottom-feeders who only know how to bottom-feed.

e.g. opposing genocide is terrorism!

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago

Grow a pair. Confiscate their bombers since they're being used for genocide and land theft.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 29 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The Brits supplying the British airfield from which US heavy bombers take off:

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 26 points 15 hours ago

That's on them for continuing to do it!

[–] manxu@piefed.social 71 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Funny to think that the UK thought one of the advantages of Brexit was that the USA and the UK could now finally get as close as they wanted without the interference of the EU.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 48 points 17 hours ago

There's plenty of leopards for everyone!

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 91 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

This rant is extra ignorant with a cherry on top.

The UK already gets most of its oil from the US and Norway (sauce)

The Orange Child Rapist apparently did not know oil is a global commodity and therefore all/most oil cost the same around the world. I guess he figured if the USA did not get oil from Iran, US Oil was not going up in price?

What an embarrassment of a country to have this pustule of a person as president (elected twice!)

[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Supreme leader trump hs declared that to protect capitalism domestic oil producers are restricted from selling on the global market.

Patriots must sell oil only to the homeland and forego the global markets.

CPAC has burst into chants of USA USA and free market analysts on Fox News are calling this an obvious win.

Comrades, trump has said if any privately owned oil fields produce oil for export he may have to seize the means of production. Truly a new golden age is upon us.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

If the USA isn't going to participate in the global oil market then there's no reason for the global oil market to use US currency.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 20 points 17 hours ago

oil is a global commodity and therefore all/most oil cost the same around the world.

The art of the deal guy didn't understand opportunism in pricing? If they're charging more, we can charge more.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 46 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT

Do it yourself idiot! 🤮 🤡

But USA can't, and if they try they will just be further humiliated.
Maybe Trump thinks the military is refusing his orders, so he wants UK to do it for him instead.
The man is insane and has dementia on top of that. Congratulations to the Americans that elected him, you are the laughing stock of the world, especially those that want to harm USA.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 44 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

If it’s so easy you just TAKE IT.

Is it not easy?

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's not like Iran is a terrified 13 year old girl, they can fight back.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 35 points 20 hours ago

Uhm...turns out...the green transition was a core security policy. That is why maga, russia, gulf countries were against it...

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 14 hours ago

Good. Trump's "helping" hand is covered in blood and shit.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

*'Go get your own oil!' Trump tells UK the US won't 'help you anymore' in latest furious rant

What a boorish sack of shit, Jesus Christ, dealing with that man on a daily basis must be fucking exhausting.

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[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago

Trump: "Go to the strait and just take it" Spain: "OK." Trump: "WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT"

[–] monkeyman76@fedinsfw.app 9 points 16 hours ago

He'll be never see it, but.. get fucked you orange faced cunt.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 24 points 19 hours ago

So the US has more naval power than the whole of Europe together, and they need help fixing the mess they started?

[–] a_good_hunter@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago

TACO

[–] Nagrom@lemmy.ca 13 points 18 hours ago

I broke it, you fix it.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 20 points 20 hours ago

I’m so tired

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And just like with Venezuela the Oil Motive for war becomes obvious. Greedy old dumbass dinosaurs still think oil is worth killing for instead of working on the many alternatives that we have already available.

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