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President Trump on Wednesday said he is considering the formation of a “joint venture” with Iran to set up tolls in the Strait of Hormuz after the Trump administration and Tehran agreed to a two-week ceasefire deal.

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The president also suggested Monday that the U.S. could impose its own tolls on vessels trying to transit through the channel. Leaders in Tehran signaled last week it would install a “toll booth” system to exert a price on ships seeking safe passage through the strait.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

He would me more successful in trying to proclaiming reality into being if he said he was considering getting a pony.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 hours ago

Iran: "Nah."

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

Wants his cut.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 15 hours ago

This strait dictates world economy? Of course trump wants to install a toll booth there with the money going straight to him and his cronies

All that after a war with Iran, of course

Deluded dipshit

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 4 points 11 hours ago

lol dumpy swindling? SAY IT ISN’T SO!

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

God, what an idiot.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 12 points 17 hours ago

A carbon tax?! Demented Don the climate warrior!

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The bigger irony of this is that a Trump actually doing this would further turn the world away from the US. If it was just Iran imposing the toll, over time the international community would sour on Iran for not moving past the war. This would economically benefit the US more than any direct cashflow from a toll ever would, as it would stabilize devestment from America. Now nobody will ever blame Iran for the toll, solidifying the loss in American soft power forever.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I don't think it would be between the US and Iran, but rather a Trump-Iran joint venture. You know, to further compensate for his hard work.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 53 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I know the man is just throwing mud at the wall to see what sticks, but the whiplash from "civilizational erasure" and "back to the Stone Ages" to "buddy-buddy halfsies on illegal tolls" is a little much.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How brain is mush, and he started out with a bottom tier brain.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago

But his uncle was a top scientist at Harvard! /s

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lmao Trump sees an opportunity to swindle and is all over it. Art of the deal!

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

Hamberder meal!

[–] bajabound@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You won't be saying that when your toll checks start coming in about 2 weeks from now! /s

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I know you are kidding, but if a monthly toll dividend payment went out to taxpayers even for a pittance, lots of folks would probably cheer the conquest happily.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 85 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

This is insane. I don't know why this hasn't got wider news coverage.

I were not able to find a better news article, but this news article somehow failed to mention the central fact that anybody demanding tolls, whether Iran or USA or both, is unambiguously illegal under international law. It is an international strait, and there is right of navigation for ships. Legal Eagle describes why the tolls are illegal: Trump’s Illegalist War Gets Illegaler.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is an international strait, and there is right of navigation for ships.

Says who? May I introduce you to the wonderful world of gunboat diplomacy? /s

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Says who?

The most extraordinary thing here is perhaps that the US is not saying so. With Trump talking about imposing tolls. It used to be that like the #1 priority of Pax Americana was to insure international freedom of navigation.

But Trump just casually throws that out the window, I assume in an unvetted 2AM Truth Social rant (I haven't actually checked where and when Trump said it).

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How long though till Trump is the US, though?

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is President. Trump is the US right now. It is dangerous to pretend he is not.

And it is not just an aberration. Congress could remove Trump any time they wanted to. But they do not.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 2 points 11 hours ago

Trump will be the US until he dies ( probably not for ages just to spite his haters)

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

is unambiguously illegal under international law.

Oh honey...

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This specific part of international law has been almost universally observed for many decades. It actually matters.

[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

incoherent mumbling “~rules based order…~”

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 4 points 22 hours ago

Who's going to enforce it? Not the USA.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago

Well what will happen is that US courts will declare it illegal, but after attention spans have moved on, so the end result will be that Iran just wins in the end, and oil gets more expensive.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah because the law is the one thing that can stop Trump, right? Let's stop kidding ourselves. The only thing proven to stop Trump is leverage and force. It doesn't even take that much because he's so stupid he can't usually figure out ways around it.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is that the US extorting protection money from merchant ships for passing in an otherwise free international waterway makes the US government look like a mafia state. Which it may very well be, although it tried to avoid making it this clear before.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 16 hours ago

It's abundantly clear that the Trump administration is this and not an inch more than this.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Everybody benefits from the free trade system working - and that depends on international freedom of navigation law being respected. Also Trump voting Republicans, and Republican Congressmen, benefit.

In a sane world, US voters would stop Trump. In their own rational self interest.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 19 hours ago

None of Trump's voters are anywhere near understanding this though. They overwhelmingly vote against their own rational self interests time and time again. So a sane world is not the one we get.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s fully within the territorial waters of Iran or Oman. I’m not an international law expert but it seems that it’s a practiced convention not a legally enforceable rule.

Besides, international law is about who has the bigger stick.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

It’s fully within the territorial waters of Iran or Oman. I’m not an international law expert but it seems that it’s a practiced convention not a legally enforceable rule.

The right of "innocent passage" in a country's territorial waters is guaranteed by the UNCLOS. It's a legally binding rule since both Iran and the USA have signed the convention.

But both have probably also violated a dozen of international conventions since the start of the war, so that's mostly besides the point.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

not a legally enforceable rule.

Anything is enforceable with enough bombs, if there is a will. Any previous US President, Democrat or Republican, would have enforced it no question.

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 1 day ago

Huh? This news has been posted multiple times on here over the past 3 days.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

If Iran is sharing toll money with anyone, its China.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago

“Joint venture” wherein the USA saves a few trillion dollars by standing down in Iran, and Iran tolls every ship that passes.

Art of the Deal.

[–] disorderly@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Gosh, I wonder what Iran thinks about that idea? The article has this to say:

Any “joint venture” was not part of Iran’s 10-point peace plan that the U.S. agreed to and the president previously called “workable.”

And that's it! Guess this one is still in the "concept of a plan" phase.

[–] Zahtu@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

these was a guy in the comments 2-4 Weeks ago, who was already calling for that being the whole reason of the war. Trump and his lackeys are really executing the biggest grift in history. And the World only watches.

With Iran beging a close russian ally and the Trump administration the same (looking at Vance in Hungary), i dont think its too far fetched, that the whole pupeteer all along has been the Kremlin, achieving multiple goals at the same time. most importantly achieving financing for the continuation oft their Ukraine war.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

here's a joint venture idea to Trump: your goal is to fuck off as much as you can with your buddy Israel, and Iran do the toll collecting. Iran get benefits from tolls, and you get benefits by stabilising gas prices over time.

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

A collective "Fuck you, sit down and shut up" to Mr. Pedo would be nice.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Is anyone else considering it?

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Any random country with a navy coming to collect a toll like some sort of sequential highway robbery would be pretty funny.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

That is the question. The current world system depends on there not being these kinds of tolls. But if Trump legitimizes them, then world trade could be fucked.

The current system has worked so well for so long, people don't even seem to realize how much wealth it generates for everybody. And that it doesn't need to be this way. Actually not unlike what happens in the US, if the rule of law collapses completely.

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