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It’s a movie starring his nephew in the lead role, approved by his estate, and by all accounts it just feels like an attempt to whitewash him. This is a man who was accused of being a serial child molester, settled with a family out of court for $25 million just to avoid a trial (Chandler), and openly admitted he slept in the same bed as kids while he was an adult (Bashir interview), among other things. I don’t really see what there is to debate.

Anything pointing this out gets backlash on movie-related subreddits, which I find wild. It makes me wonder, if Epstein could sing and dance, would he have gotten a biopic too? Would people be defending him like this?

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[–] lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Fuck everything about this movie

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

I think that you're living you life in an incredibly boring consumptive way if you even have an opinion or care about this movie.

You don't have to watch every movie. Thousands of terrible movies come out every year, just don't watch them. If someone makes a bad movie. How would that personally affect me? Unless I was strapped down and forced to watch it. Who cares.

You making this thread and getting people talking about the movie is you low key doing marketing for the movie, whether you like it or not any attention is attention.

So so congrats on going out of your way to market this movie that you don't have to watch or think about.

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I think its right amount of woke.

I personally dont like these kind of things.

I havent and dont intend to watch this or pieces like Oppenheimer or Monster series. I can watch legit documentaries of Dahlmer or unabomber, but i find it to be poor taste to make entertainment from things like that.

[–] Stormy@thelemmy.club 1 points 12 hours ago

You're not too woke. You're to green and innocent though. Movies glorifying pedophiles shouldn't surprise you. Trumps wife just got her own movie ffs.

The people with power like this stuff and want us to like it too.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The thought of white washing MJ is kind of hilarious

He did it to himself 😂

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I thought everything against MJ was pretty much determined to be completely fabricated by a physiologist convincing kids that they "remembered" things that never really happened?

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I personally think he didn't do anything. I think he was weird as hell and people took advantage of it. People who are incredibly talented tend to be really different personalities. Look at great composers and painters.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

People always point out things that the kids claimed but no one seems to talk about the kids that were forced by their parents to make up shit to sue him for millions. I don't care, i'm not here to defend the dead guy, but people just want to believe he's a pedo monster, but normal ass people wanting to get rich quick is not an option? These people were responsible for their kids and were like: yeah, you can have a sleepover with the weirdo. Macaulay Culkin seems like a pretty honeat guy, who speaks out over a lot of shit happened to him and the industry in general, and he said: nah, just a weird dude who liked to have children around.

Dude was so rich in his prime, he had no idea what money even was. Of course he would rather spend 25million dollars to make a lawsuit go away than being questioned over and over again, while people already made up their mind.

Maybe focus on the pedophile in the Whitehouse that the maybe pedophile that is dead.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Michael Jackson never had a childhood and as a result had some clear psychological issues.

Given the evidence (or lack thereof), I'm inclined to think the dude just wanted the childhood he missed. And no one shared the same excitement for it as him than actual kids.

I sure wouldn't have wanted to hang out with him if I was his age.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's...

OK... Let's practice some Occam's Razor here. What do you think is the most likely answer?

  • MJ was inappropriate with children.
  • A psychologist devised an elaborate plot where he managed to somehow make multiple children remember something that didn't happen.
[–] QueenMidna@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

I mean... It happened with the Satanic panic. This is exactly the plot of it

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...because nothing even remotely complex has ever happened before?

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 18 hours ago

We haven't seen any rich or powerful people turn to paedophilia to manage their internal pain no no that is so rare

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

The line between good and evil cuts through the heart of us all.

Get off your high horse.

Hate it because its Hollywood trash, not because its about michael Jackson.

I mean Thomas Jefferson is on the 5 dollar bill. Do you abstain from $5bills because he sold some of his black children into slavery? (Google it, he did)

(Edit, meant $2 bill)

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Our dearest friend… That’s Abraham Lincoln on the 5$ bill. George Washington (avid slave owner who used legal loopholes holes to avoid his slaves from becoming free in northern states) is on 1$, and Thomas Jefferson (guy previously mentioned) is on the 2$ bill.

Note just because they got plastered and are constantly out here on a high pedestal does not mean it’s ok to make more pedestals for more horrible people.

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

I was wrong,he's on the $2bill, but I said what I said.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You think not raping children is being on a high horse...?

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Were you there? If so, hi epstein.

Allegations are easy to make, watch this: Keen flame rapes dolphins who dress too sexy.

What you have in common with MJ now is no court has convicted either of you.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, talk about a high horse to draw the line somewhere beyond not inserting a penis into a child traumatizing them for life

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Big talk from you, an alleged rapist.

Which is the same thing as mj.

[–] TaeKwonDoh@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Abe Lincoln's not on the $5 bill anymore?

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, my bad. Jeffy on the $2.

Ps i love you, let's run away together.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

I couldn't care less about it myself. More trash for the dumpster fire of American culture.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

you haven't seen it cuz it isn't out yet and you think it's disgusting? I don't understand man

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, they think it's disgusting that it's even made, it's not that hard to understand

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 50 minutes ago

ive seen biographical movies that depict ugly things in an honest light it's been fine before

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In my opinion, MJ probably was an pedophile in the truest sense of the word. He enjoyed cuddling and simply being close to them, and actually caring about them, which also means he would never actually hurt them. It reminds me of furry cuddle piles. If he would have been born later, he would have an fursona for sure.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Nah, kid was beat by his dad, lost his childhood and just wanted friends. He wasn't an adult psychologically and enjoyed being around kids his "age". He wasn't all there, but id bet money he was far from a pedophile. I don't think he had it in him at all, just wanted friends.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I did wonder if it was going to talk about his abusive father or the molesting thing. But not enough for me to watch it and find out.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the one sex allegation I just don't believe.

And its a biopic so... It wouldn't matter who it was about. Shit... I'd watch a biopic about Epstein. I'd still hate the fucker at the end.

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yeah Michael Jackson was a breed of his own. He apparently had little boys SLEEPING in his bed, which is weird and absolutely unacceptable especially in today's climate, but he did not touch them. McCauley Culkin said "We were just SLEEPING." Still completely inappropriate but that family who got $25 million out of Michael, they were just shamelessly telling lies to milk an easy cash cow.

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