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[–] blinx615@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Leave where? The Mediterranean?

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Israel is an evil country. Israel is the country with the most war criminals per capita. If the Israeli people do not do something significant in the coming months, they will be complicit in the atrocities committed by the IDF.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

They need to be taught the same hard lesson Germany, Italy, and Japan had to be taught 80 years ago. Genocidal fascism has no place on Earth.

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like blocking the vent on a pressure cooker, this is no doubt going to blow up in their face.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They're perfectly fine with that; a permanent state of emergency and ever-looming existential enemy is what fascists need to justify their own police state and crackdowns on freedom.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure they are leaving already. But just in coffins like Israel wanted.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

With widespread Kahanism, they did not learn everything from their past.

[–] wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ashar@infosec.pub 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A big genocidal pogrom. The biggest pogrom.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Wow it really is easy to make it sound like something Trump would say isn’t it?

Well except he has the vocabulary of a 4th grader and pogrom isn’t likely in it.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He should have been more eloquent. I'm pretty sure there's an ancient word that means "to entirely destroy by fire"... If he had used that instead, it would be more clear what he means.

It's not even news anymore to see these shitty blood-glutted war criminals' gloating, completely conveniently forgetting the hypocrisy. Perhaps we need to simply call this what it is, by this man's very definition here: it is a holocaust of Gaza.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I hope I live to see Israel, in its current form, entirely destroyed. I want to believe that there are consequences to being this evil.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Its a noble dream. But for Israel to ever face justice their largest and fiercest backer - the nation that is often the only one that votes to protect them in UN votes, and the one that has almost singlehandedly turned them into a military superpower in the middle east - the USA - must get its house in order first.

There is zero chance of much changing on Israel while Republicans or the conservative wing of the Democrats are in power, and especially while Trump is president. That's not to say it can't change, but there are multiple hurdles: so, I hope you live a long time and see a lot of positive changes throughout your life.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This makes me think about Handmade’s Tale. I’ve been watching it a lot recently and it makes you wonder what happened to Israel in this timeline. I’d guess Israel’s support from Gilead would have dropped to zero. They were likely fucked given that the Jewish people here were deported and put on boats that never actually made it to Israel. Just a random thought brought about by your comment.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The US is witholding funds to the UN. Pretty soon, the world will just move on without them.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The US doesn't need to "get it's house in order".

It also needs to (and seems on the path to) be destroyed in its current form.

With global trade inevitably shifting away from the unstable US, Military embarrassments against small impoverished organizations like the houthis, and diplomacy entirely built around leveraging those 2 things....it seems much more likely the US turns into a nuclear armed former superpower than that it maintains it's global status and changes to actually use said status for good.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The US doesn't need to "get it's house in order".

It also needs to (and seems on the path to) be destroyed in its current form.

This is just semantics, those two statements essentially describe the same thing.

I was explaining why Israel is in the position its in now and what's needed to change it at present - hard to see into the future.

The foundational legal and institutional structure of the USA is a good model for democracy. There is no perfect model. What needs to happen there is stuff that progressives have been asking for decades: expansion of the supreme court to proportionally match the size of the congress - which any democrat president could do if they weren't cowards. Then repeal Citizen United to get the billion dollar political slush funds quashed, and a massive anti-corruption campaign to prosecute all those who have broken the law over the last few decades. The US is backsliding hard towards a Russian kleptocracy, controlled by billionaires and their useful idiots - but it can be mended if laws are enforced. A lot of work, but to wipe the slate clean and start again with a new model would be far far more work and no guarantee that it's even an improvement at the end.

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 115 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Israel is the modern day Nazi regime and we need to stop mincing words about it.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Thats why our nazi president is making sure it's illegal to say bad things about the Israeli government, like knows like

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The worst one, but not the only one

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 81 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Oh? Is Israel finally letting Palestinians have free travel so that they actually can leave or is "leave in great numbers" a euphemism for the ongoing genocide?

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would say genocide. It's Israel. Come on now.

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[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There is a word in ancient Greek which has the precise meaning "to entirely destroy" by fire. Maybe we need to start calling this what it is: a holocaust of Gaza.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is fucking evil manifest.

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

If Gaza will be entirely destroyed, there is a considerable risk that Israel will meet the same fate later.

If a country spans only 22 000 square kilometers and is inhabited by 10 million people, it's not very smart to make enemies among every group who can relate to Palestinians - for example Muslims (about 1.9 billion people) or perhaps Arabs (around 400 million people).

Put simply - Israel has withstood various pressures because of US backing.

The US currently runs a high risk of getting somewhat indisposed due to a president they elected acting very foolishly. If the US should break down, Israel will find itself very isolated.

If Israel makes a record amount of determined enemies now, it may have a record amount of people seeking its downfall later. Even if the Israeli government doesn't care the slightest amount about Palestinians, it should consider its own future before acting in the described way.

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[–] tostos@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

United States of Aipac will approve, does not matter reps or dems.

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