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Microsoft finally agrees Windows 11 has problems, and K2 is its plan to fix them, claims report (www.xda-developers.com)
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Let's hope it's actually true.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Did y’all miss this past week where they disabled their flagship egg-basket for 1.5 billion people on purpose?

Yeah they made Copilot chromium-browser only for about 5 days. On purpose. Or, the less charitable version is they just rolled out a bug that broke things for a massive amount of people, kept the news reports down, and waited a week before being convinced that was a Dumb As Fuck move.

Everyone has to learn this in their own ways but tech people always get there eventually: microsoft is, and always has been, awful.

It’s like learning HP printers are awful.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

To be fair old HP laserjets are still good printers 20 years later.. Newer models? Trash

[–] el_muerte@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive

Oh good, that'll bring it all the way up to a third as responsive as the Windows 7 one was.

[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 hour ago

Let's not forget that Win7 was almost 25% as responsive as Win2k3, which could even hold a candle to GNOME.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 hours ago

Plot twist: They're gonna double down on vibe coding it.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 21 points 5 hours ago

“Ok, ok, we hear you, no more copilot.

Meet: sidepilot.”

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Valve: We just gonna release linux-based gaming miniPC.

The rest of the market:

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Gamers rise up moment

[–] foiledAgain@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But then sit back down when you see the state of IT retail

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Thats the furrys problem, not the gamers

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 53 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive

Uh. I think I found the issue. A menu isn't even supposed to have various degrees of responsiveness.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 30 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. 60% more responsive for something infamous for taking multiple seconds to launch is depressingly bad. That's "not even trying" levels of improvement.

The start menu should open essentially instantly (excluding optional animations) – 100 ms is good, 200 ms is somewhat adequate. They're aiming for somewhere between 400 and 1200 ms.

I hope for them that they underpromise and overdeliver because this does not inspire confidence.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

For a menu to take longer than 200ms is ridiculous. At 500ms of wait for my menu to show, the OS is getting nuked.

As for the 'inspire confidence',when was the last time MS inspired anything that was not disgust? Excluding the C-suite and some investors, of course.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Some of the newer C# features are nice. Of course .Net is not handled by the same people who keep setting Windows on fire.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

No, it's not Windows fault. Microsoft has problems, needs to be fixed.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 36 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

User: the updates keep breaking my system, I see AI and ads everywhere and stupid electron apps use all my RAM

MS execs: I know! Let's rewrite the start menu again!

[–] T156@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, using react for it was just an odd decision to begin with.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 29 minutes ago

Yeah, React Native exists basically for the sole purpose of making things multiplatform easily. A menu that's specifically made for one operating system is only getting the downsides.

[–] Solaris1220@lemmy.world 57 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Say what you want about Microsoft, but at the very least, it seems to know when it needs to change course.

That has to be sarcasm, right?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

It doesn't say that it actually does. Just knows.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

*rename course.

There, fixed it. 😁

[–] Monument@piefed.world 29 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

For one, the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive and notably more customizable.

Customizable for whom?
Users? Advertisers?

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago

Windows users will be soon, for the first time ever, able to put the task bar on any edge of the screen, imagine that for customization.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 55 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

What ever happened to Windows 10 being the last OS you’d ever need?

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 1 points 45 minutes ago

That will be the last Windows I'll use. When windows 10 stopped working then I'll switch to Linux full time.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Well never upgraded to 11.. So...

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 29 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It is the last windows I needed.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 41 points 11 hours ago

But it's true!

10 was the last one you needed. 11 and onwards is neither needed nor wanted. Also people are starting to realize the power of Linux (+Wine/Proton)

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 22 points 11 hours ago

They couldn't cram as many ads as they wanted into it.

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[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 130 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's what they said a month ago, then they decided that 'remove copilot from notepad' meant 'rename copilot in notepad'.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 64 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

I remember reading that plan and being shocked about how good it sounded. And then they did the exact opposite of every single thing they promised, which I'm sure endeared themselves to all their enterprise customers.

So sure, I welcome Microsoft's attempts to finally drag itself back into relevancy, but they've got a massive self-inflicted foot wound that's gonna complicate matters.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

"drag itself back into relevancy"

They still have some like a little more than 90% market share. That seems pretty relevant to me.

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[–] Serious_Me@piefed.social 42 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Aww, and I finally just moved over to Linux.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago

Aww

More like "aww yeah"

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Just stay on Linux. Microslop won't actually fix anything.

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 36 points 12 hours ago

If you're happy on Linux, stay on Linux. This is Microsoft's "I can change baby, I swear" play. Just like they did after Windows 8. And Windows Vista. And Windows ME.

Surely they have learned their lessons and will never intentionally tank their product in the name of profit again. Surely this time.

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[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 23 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So Windows 11 Service Pack 2? Or just win11.1?

I think they should call it 'The Windows 11 Apology Tour'.

How MS is a still a thing and still turns a profit is beyond me.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Helping Israel commit genocide, for one.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 9 hours ago

Vendor lock in and government bribery.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The nail in the coffin for me was, when I got an add for some copilot course shit, on Microsoft teams, (this was on my work pc btw) with notifications ringing everywhere btw, on a fucking business account (I am using Linux at my household, not fucking microslop). That was IT for me. How they have the audacity to do so, is beyond me.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They figure once they have a captive audience, anything short of killing the hostage is fair game.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Actually, it seems that even killing the hostage is fair game.

Microsoft Copilot Tells User Suicide Is an Option - https://futurism.com/the-byte/microsoft-copilot-user-suicide

[–] DishaweslemOride@lemmy.org 21 points 12 hours ago

Maybe this time my abusive spouse won’t beat me. I just need to go home. They’ve changed. They promise.

[–] morto@piefed.social 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They could put a built-in linux installer

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

imagine if every pc got pre-installed with an ISO that asks "windows or linux" before installing anything instead of defaulting to windows like they do now. that would be awesome

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