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The biometric ID project has been halted and investigated in multiple countries, but it recently partnered with Tinder, Zoom, and Docusign to verify users.

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[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 193 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not doing that. Go fuck yourselves.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 97 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem is companies like docusign you might not have a choice not to use it, for a job for instance. This is pernicious, and will force us to hand over even more of our information, accepting a thousand page terms of service to do necessary tasks, with no government protection (none enforced even when there,) to any significant degree.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In sane places, large terms of service are unenforceable due to the lack of reasonable expectation that they were read and understood. The USA is just a dystopic cesspool of anti-consumerism.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Most of such terms were unenforceable in the US too, until around 2001 or so, and it just got worse from there. The supreme court made it official in the 10's sometime if I recall, endorsing even making consumers or employees sign away their rights to sue to either buy something or get hired.

All that wage theft from minimum wage workers, which exploded in the bush years, happened with employees unable to sue, instead only being able to bring a binding arbitration suit of the employer's choosing. And knowing them they would make the claimant pay a big filing fee to start the process.

It also used to be that if one part of such a contract was found to be illegal, the entire thing would be thrown out, not any more.

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[–] GMac@feddit.org 17 points 2 days ago

So a Sam Altman company is coming to solve the problem of too much unidentifiable AI slop on the internet. A problem that has in no small part, been created by OpenAI, another Sam Altman company.

Hard pass.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 119 points 2 days ago (3 children)

An MIT Technology Review investigation reveals World’s unethical practices when onboarding test users across Africa and Asia, including deceptive marketing practices. The investigation also says that World was gathering personal data beyond iris scans, including heartbeat, breathing, and other vital signs, and doing so without obtaining meaningful informed consent.

Insane. When businesses are building massive systems to identify and track the citizenry, the government should step in and stomp it out. Instead, the government is mandating that it proceeds.

The system is functioning as expected. The system must be destroyed.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago

That's the neat part when you blur the lines between the government and the private sector. So-called leaders who are interested in power, control, and "winning" more than upholding their oaths of office can just use the private sector to do the things the government is restricted from doing. Then when their businesses can't compete on their own, they can lean on the legal + force options the government has.

I'm starting to think this habit we have of electing selfish sociopathic bad-faith actors to powerful positions of service is less than optimal.

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Someday soon, and it isn’t as far off as some people think: the government will know who we are.

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[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck all the way off with that shit

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All these AI companies are into deep and they cant get out of thier AI debt hole which will soon come down. Cant afford all those AI DATACENTERS nor they can generate any profit from it, what better way to convince many counties in the west to adopt AI verfication, so they can get a revenue stream from the governments.

reddit also uses OPEN AI in one form or another, they likely will be the most compliant to require it,.

[–] night_petal@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can avoid pretty much any tech company by simply not using the product. Docusign, however, is fucking everwhere in modern US life. I've had local government agencies advertise a certain wait period etc. which is dependent on using Docusign on their website, otherwise there is a weeks (or months) long delay on them mailing things you have to sign because why would they ever print them in the office? Based on the nature of the company, I am not surprised, but them being onboard will make bureaucracy that everyone has to deal with immensely more annoying if you opt out of using their products.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

FWIW I had to use an equivalent which didn't work on my setup. I emailed the company, they said try this, try that, which I did, still no dice. They emailed me a form to print, sign, take a photo of, and email them back. I did and the 3rd party that relied on their service was notified.

So... it's OK to be "annoying" with this kind of services if it doesn't work respective of your setup itself respective of your concerns.

I'm not saying it will also work, or that it's efficient, just that it's a possibility.

[–] night_petal@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true. It does however even pop up in doctors offices, or anything legally binding. Things where the your appointment will be ruined if you don't sign digitally.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To be honest I don't know what the solution is. What I'm convinced of though is that if we don't push back, at the very least signify that it is actually a problem, then it silently becomes the new norm.

Edit : related in school context https://lemmy.ml/post/46392253/25351905

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

My employer uses them too for certain documents, and I gotta say, I'm not a fan of their tech side either. The contact I'm working with is a dear, always on top of getting my questions to the relevant engineers and getting a timely response back, but he can't make gold from straw either.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago

Fuck off, Sam

[–] SaintNectar@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh god.. They really want to track every humans on this planet. And we all know for what purposes

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They already do. They just want to make it easier

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And also have the ability to turn off people's legal existence when they get up to too much anti-corporate shenanigans.

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Anti-citizen one, you are accused of multiple anti-civil violations. Wait for civil protection teams in the submission position.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

As someone in a sanctioned country, I actually approve of yet another "official" identifier since it will be used by someone making me less dependent upon my local ID, and since technically everyone not in an Indian or sub-Saharan African village is already being tracked. There too probably.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The US can do whatever they want in their country but leave the rest of us alone. We're actually doing much better without you. It would be even better if you stopped interfering ie start an illegal war, in the name of Israel. Than we can all move on without the US.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Canada and Mexico should combine forces and take over the US.

Give Hawaii back to the native Hawaiians.

Canada takes Alaska.

Mexico takes Texas and New Mexico and detain all the pro ICE fascists.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Canada and Mexico should combine forces and take over the US.

Why the fuck would we do that. We have enough dumb fat violent racists.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Canada world police > United States world police

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

No no no that's not how it works

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

UN world police based on a wide mandate. Yes not as effective but the only way to real peace.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I would be so happy to be living in a part of Canada.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You’re officially invited.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

And let Cuba be a normal state again that can trade freely with the world.

[–] terabyterex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

the problem is, a lot of shitty laws are passing in europe (looking at you france) but havent made it through our system yet. time will tell.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

That's true, the fuckery is strong here too and it requires a lot of pressure to hold it back.

[–] Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm surprised he didn't name it Mark of the Beast instead, while claiming the pope is the real antichrist.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Peter thiel marks the puppets he controls: Altman, Jd vance, Karp.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Sam Altman can go fuck himself

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago
[–] kaiyo@piefed.ca 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From the country so adament against a nationwide ID, this is rich

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Oh you misunderstood, nationwide IDs are the mark of the beast.

Being forced to give your biometric data to a company trying to create artificial consciousness? That's just capitalism baby.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

US: Are we the bad guys?

Morgan Freeman: It was at that moment that the people realized they were.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago

No, they didn't answer the question; they only asked it. Gotta see the follow-through. This makes me think of the Palantir articles about how in reality their employees have been annoyed about being painted as bad guys, instead of genuinely questioning themselves.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

all corporations are bad

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hold up? I'm going to need to verify to use zoom, now? Wtf for?

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

So they can have more valuable , more personal data.

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[–] br0da@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Again, we don’t have to use any of this. There are alternatives to all of those products.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

this is fitting

1000002798

remember all the times I said "AI is fascism"?

is it getting clearer now?

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Uhm, no.

This is one of those technologies that CEOs hear about and think would be great for their business. But, they don’t consider that nobody wants to fucking do this.

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

they don't care... big difference.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Wake up and smell the dystopia. It's cooking, and if you don't like how it smells, just wait until you have to eat it.

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