I'd love to use Mastodon more than I have BUT I DONT FUCKING USE LINUX AND I DONT WANT TO FUCKING HEAR ABOUT IT ALL GODDAMN DAY
this post was submitted on 07 May 2025
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sorry but we cant just say no to an oportunity to suggest to you use linux
I noticed. I'm not having any of the problems that linux supposedly fixes.
So you turned to Lemmy. Great choice.
Yeah. Its going downhill fast
You should just use Linux.
What do you think about Linux Mint?
Mint is a very good first distro.
Definitely go for it.
Fuck me, I wouldn't join BS even if you paid me. I've stepped on the centralised social network rake one too many times.
I guess I'll lose out on the viral influencer garbage I don't care about and brands doing cringe shit to push their products.
Everyone who has anything to say should post on both, then ditch Bluesky once they have enough followers on Mastodon.
Also, if you don't mind absolute chaos because of intentionally no moderation -> Nostr
Bluesky isn't decentralised, given enough time there is nothing stopping it from becoming X
This. Bsky has the tech for federation, but the technical hoops are more than most can handle. So everybody is absolutely centralized on the bsky.social instance.
I think one person has managed to establish a second instance that jumps through Bsky's hoops, but only one – almost everybody is still on bsky.social and will likely continue to be.
Is it cooler than Twitter was 10 or 15 years ago?
Mastodon user here since 2017. Sure, Bluesky requires less learning for those who come from other centralized platforms and nobody has to deal with fediblock drama over there. Some may also point to Bluesky's users being less tech-savvy and less prone to dogpiling on tech companies for their poor decisions, which I don't believe is completely true. Something I do love about Mastodon though is I don't need any mods or admins to make decisions for me. I can calmly stay in an instance I trust and filter everything, every single small bit, to fit my own criteria. I get others think this is bad moderation and wish to depend on third parties to answer their reports, clean the servers and "do justice" but I prefer to make those decisions myself and let others make theirs.
a lack of moderation is how you get 4chan and x
Yup, any client will allow you to block accounts or instances but noooo the other instance's admins must do it because someone somewhere somehow got micro-offended at something!
If they want to reach their customers, they likely won't find them on mastodon.. hard to ignore millions of engaged users 🤷♂️
You seem to mix up cause and effect.
Mastodon moderation is also absolute garbage.
That's not consciously why, but it's certainly part of the stack of reasons that made BS blow up despite coming in from the rear in both building the tech/site and having absorbed the first wave of Twitter departures.
Incidentally, I have a dormant Masto account and active accounts here and on Bluesky.
Masto is a big disappointment and surprisingly bad fit for the Fedi/AP structure.
Strongly disagree. Bluesky is extremely American-centric and basically just a bulletin board of "hot takes". I find Mastodon much deeper, more engaging, and international. I'm glad I deleted my BS account and replaced it with Mastodon.
edit: However, I was never a Twitter user in the past
I have to say them setting themselves up to have "BS" as an acronym was a bad choice. Although I still hope it was intentional.
Look, it's fine. You don't need to be into successful things. But a bulletin board of hot takes is the core functionality of microblogging.
If you make a Twitter-like for "deep" conversation then... don't make that. That's why I prefer it here.
The character limit is in place because Twitter was a constant flow of headlines scrolling past your feed. You stepped into the stream and let the news and hot takes wash over you, get mad every now and then and ragetweet back, join a dogpile, whatever.
It's toxic and bad, just like all social media, but it's intended to feed you quick bites of condensed info constantly.
You want deeper, then go somewhere where you have no character limit, proper discussion threading and no focus on media posts. So... you know... here, kind of. Reddit, but by extension here.
But Twitter was successful because the flood of microhits was useful for famous people to reach out to fanbases asymmetrically while still retaining some feedback and validation and for people who needed access to those (journalists, marketers and activists, mainly) to be able to reach out and receive info from them directly and easily.
Mastodon is NOT that, and so Mastodon makes no damn sense. This does. Pixelfed does. Mastodon does not and it will never be a Twitter replacement for that reason. And since it's made to be a Twitter replacement it will never be much of anything else, either.
Mastodon exists, currently, because enough people like it (and some of those people, myself included, like it in part because it's less Americanized than BS). Perhaps a Twitter replacement should be better than Twitter. Maybe for many people Mastodon is an improvement.
"Enough" is true, in that as long as people can have instances up the software will run.
"Many" is a stretch, if you compare it to the alternatives.
As I said elsewhere, nobody says you have to like the popular thing. I'm fine with people hanging out in a niche alternative if that's what they want. Hell, I'm here.
But the thought that Masto would replace closed socials and specifically Twitter that was popular when they were seeing growth coming from Twitter users came and went.
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Bluesky is for people that want Twitter to go back to the “progressive” highly moderated/censored hugbox that it was before Musk bought it. They don’t want decentralisation or any of the supposed privacy that brings (which isnt actual privacy anyway), they just want old Twitter where everyone agrees with each other cause they ban everyone that doesn’t. Bluesky is that because it’s a literal Twitter clone from the guy who made Twitter.
Bsky user here - I just want Twitter without Nazi bullshit.
I just want Twitter without opinions I don’t agree with
Let me check your comments real quick. Yeeeeaaaahhhh, that's what I thought. "FreedomAdvocate", it was so obvious.
Let me check yours real quick…….oh wow, what a surprise - everyone you disagree with is a fascist.
For real; the second I saw "hugbox", I was like, "Hmm…."
I agree with you in part, but I find just wanted to put the footnote that good moderation isn’t censorship (unless it’s literally being used to suppress alternative viewpoints). Good moderation is just reminding everyone of your grandmother’s rule that if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it all. And there is nothing wrong in joining an instance like that and doesn’t make your instance an echo chamber.
Good moderation isn’t censorship, but let’s be real - good moderation by random volunteer internet users is rarely ever good moderation. Most of the time it’s just suppressing alternative viewpoints.
The important part on mastodon is that you have the choice to join whatever place you want, look at the stuff you want, have moderation as much or less as you want and cant be forced to anything really.
The fedi in total is about freedom, not privacy. Privacy in public posts is pretty much nonexistent. The only "privacy" argument i can think of is you cant be forced to link accounts and you can make thousands which makes it hard to grasp who you are today.
Still a vastly better idea than bluesky.
In reality that’s not how mastodon or Lemmy or any other fediverse place work though, especially moderation wise. Your instances mods only control content on that instance, and you’re still at the mercy of the tyrannical mods on other instances. With the much smaller population on them, there are already “default” communities about topics that if/when you’re banned from them by some wannabe dictator ex-Reddit mod there’s nothing you can do, just the same as it was on Reddit.
Privacy has been sold as one of the big benefits of the fediverse, like it or not. I just mentioned that it isn’t private at all.
In reality, you can easily just as easy make your own version of a community. The idea of community isnt that every person needs to listen to your ideas because youre brillant but that if you happen to find people centered around the same idea (which can also be less moderation), you wont be hindered by central admins.
That’s no different to Reddit though, and it doesn’t work there. Everyone congregates on the “default” most populated subs/communities. Making a new one pretty much never works. It takes the previous one being closed or completely changed for any alternative to get any traction.
I tried making an account on bluesky. I was using orbot at the time. It let me make an account and then instant acocunt suspension. Similar to other platforms.
I appreciate the platform preemptively stopping me from wasting my time. I should have known better.
That was incredibly thoughtful of them, not gonna lie
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Being on both…. I can say I am on Bluesky way more, more engagement, more big names etc etc. Mastodon feels dead in comparison.
That’s strange, having bridged my account to both, I actually feel the opposite. I have way more engagement on the Mastodon side to the point where I forget I bridged my account to bluesky.
I mean it certainly helps that all my posts are tech and retro gaming related but still
You seem to mix up cause and effect.
As a Brazilian, I feel that. Although I wish Bluesky has more content with "less" left wing, because I feel that I am entering a bubble (Which is why I left Twitter, also Fuck Elon).
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As much as I'd love to see mastodon grow, I feel like a lot of people here like to ignore the number one most important feature of a social network: who's on it.
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