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Well, ml does stand for Marxist-Leninist I suppose

Idk man. I don’t believe in any of that I’m just chillin.

because they believe to make society better you must punish and control the people through fear.

And they fantasize about being the people who get to do this. Because they 'know' better than everyone else how they should live and you need to be 'educated' like they are if you are to be a member of this better society.

please read my whole comment before downvoting

Lots of terrible stuff was done by the west/USA, or because of it. These countries you listed are in some ways much worse for their own people than the US is for americans, but mostly don't terrorize other countries. I think you grossly underestimate the amount of people murdered by US and its allies' bombs compared to those murdered by their own authoritarian governments.

When you learn about all the horrendous monstrosities some of the goverments do, it's easy to just dismiss any critique of the West, because at least they are not this evil.

Well, I think the tankies have it just like that, just reversed. When they learned about all the tens of thousands (probably more? idk) innocent people and little kids murdered by the USA in all those countries all in the recent history, and none of our "civilized" countries doing anything about it, they just support any regime that opposes the US, because at least it's not this evil.

If you have the world mostly divided into two camps, it's very depressing to acknowledge how evil both are. If you see one's atrocities first, it's easy to dismiss the other's due to it.

Now, some tankies are more fanatical than others, but many of them are similar to liberals supporting the US. They don't deny some of the flaws of china for example, but they still support it over the US, for obvious reasons. The US supporters also don't deny some of the war crimes and atrocities, especially after a few years since they happened, but they never see the big picture. They see individual mistakes excusable by the perceived evilness of the enemy.

Tl; dr:

When you said:

The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.

you basically answered your question. Just reverse the sides.

Sometimes i get their love for china or cuba or whatever, but i dont understand the love for russia.... there's nothing remotely communist or pro-worker in russia anymore... its just a bunch of oligarchs like amerikkka (who .ml claims to hate)

the authoritarianism in china has at least raised the standard of living and modernization for most people... but all the lack of freedoms still suck. But it's a deal that most of them happily accept... dont criticize xinnie the pooh, but also have a good standard of living and modern cities.

Just set an instance block and move on. I blocked lemmy.ml a year ago and I am mentally much better not having to see their bullshit every day.

Tiny penis syndrome.

Communists are authoritarians because that's what communism is, like by definition; it's hard-left but also authoritarian. That's literally what separates lib-left from auth-left, the same obviously being for lib-right and auth-right (I'm just going off of the standard four-quadrant political compass, which probably has its own deep, foundational issues).

I have friends who are self proclaimed "tankies", and talking to them a lot about it, my best understanding of the way they put it is basically:

You need an Iron Fist® to fix anything, and an Iron Fist® to keep it that way.

I also think that .ml probably has a percentage of people from those locations, and most people, period, tend to think their way is the best way. Which is also fairly hard to prove because history keeps being altered and destroyed and humans only live for like 60-90 years and we don't have a very advanced intergenerational memory. Or maybe we do but just don't know how to learn very well from it when all it seems to scream is "BREED, EAT, SLEEP, STINKY, TRIBE, SCARY, RUN, FIGHT, SAFE, LOVE". It's like some people's own evolutionary biology tells them to prevent others from learning history to establish dominance and power.

Hard to say whether or not we'll make it. The solution-path definitely has a lot of construction and destruction.

Watching anime is a crime.

UK, EU, & US are getting closer to this every year.

Because that's Marcist-lenisim?

Stalin named it, and he's the one that set the definition of what that means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism

They don't call it "Stalinism" because that's way harder to defend.

The ones you see online don't even understand it, it literally requires supporting the left most party, but I've never seen a .ml account actually pushing for change thru the two party system, despite that literally being the first step:

Marxism–Leninism holds that a two-stage communist revolution is needed to replace capitalism. A vanguard party, organized through democratic centralism, would seize power on behalf of the proletariat and establish a one-party communist state. The state would control the means of production, suppress opposition, counter-revolution, and the bourgeoisie, and promote Soviet collectivism, to pave the way for an eventual communist society that would be classless and stateless.[12]

Most people online that say they're "ML" don't understand anything about it. They "learned" all they know from unsourced shitposts.

Which is crazy, because this is the closest actual ML has ever come, after trump the Dems are most likely to gain so many seats, it'll effectively be a one party government starting 2029.

If we get a progressive Dem that will name a progressive DNC chair after becoming president, we're fucking there. A one party government that's genuinely for the proletariat.

Any that claims to actually be ML and isn't pushing for the DNC as hard as possible right now is lying about their self professed label, or never understood what it meant

They aren't in love with authoritarian regimes as much as communism. So don't expect the devs to say nice things about the UAE, for instance.

The same reason MAGA does. They want a daddy to force himself on them.

“Its the antiimperialism of idiots”