Tariffs aren't designed to bring manufacturing back. It's designed to crush the US economy for Daddy Putin. It's designed to starve out the plebs. It's designed to bankrupt companies to be bought by the billionaire class for pennies on the dollar.
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You left out the most important reason: getting people to come kiss Trump's ass to ask for exemptions. Nothing is more important than getting Trump the sycophancy he has to settle for in lieu of respect.
People keep ignoring this...
I don't personally think it's true. I think Trump's first term he spent all day and night on putins dick and this term he is trying to achieve a similar staying power. He wants to be more powerful than Putin.
The math is such that I expect to see companies that make things in the us leave. Makes more sense to build in the UK and add the 10% tarriff for your thing made of chinese parts than absorb the XX% chinese tarriffs and have to raise the price even more in the us. If the product is sold abroad at all its a slam dunk to move out.
that's what happens when you have zero fucking plan at all
You mean “cOnCePts Of a PlAn” don’t count?
You mean any knowledge at all about anything or thinking ahead , which this administration hasn't done at all, seeing as they and DOGE have just cut jobs everywhere and then these agencies have to hire people back because they're understaffed and shit is falling apart.
You got to stop to call them incompetent. It's on purpose. They're traitors and are yearning for a crash.
There are easier, safer way to crash the economy that are far less public
I get the feeling those who insist there is a plan, just don't want to admit the emperor has no clothes
Arent they following Project 2025?
Which is hardly a plan.. more like a collection of terrible ideas
Remember that the entire Tariff nonsense is the brain child of Navarro who literally invented a supposed expert to justify how they could work. This is literally a fraudulent idea to fill a shitty book that, by terrible happenstance, found an idiot stupid and powerful enough to implement it
We are lucky Trump did not find Jack and Beanstalk first or he would be opening holes anywhere to plant magic seeds
Just imagine the profits from artificial scarcity, end of times riots and price gouging the ever living shit out of every citizen you can.
You can't make long term plans for building factories, sourcing raw materials and hiring people if the Dynamite Monkey in Chief can blow it all up on a whim.
As well, why would you when you can just hunker down for 4 years and wait for the next administration to get rid of the tariffs? They already have millions and billions invested outside of the country. Why spend that much again for a potentially short term problem?
So first Trump prevents any ex-allies to the US from trading with them
Then Trump prevents factories from being opened in the US to produce goods locally
What kind of 6D backgammon is this?
The kind where shelves go empty soon. I remember walking round the grocery store during covid and everything being empty, felt like a dream. Now it's a nightmare.
Assuming rebuilding manufacturing is the intended goal, how feasible is it to start at the local level, as if in a preindustrial society? That means towns would be going back to having their own smiths, bakers, butchers, like in preindustrial times? Guess that's a consequence of deindustrializing—go back to making handmade stuff since the local businesses that once mass-produced closed long ago.
Feasible? Only in smallish communities surrounded by arable land. The urban and suburban life needs large scale industry to function at all.
That's the point. Destroy America but keep idiots voting for it.
Well they want to almost destroy America, that way the rich can buy up everything for cheap and become even more pwoerful. They're literally trying to recreate the situation that caused the rise of oligarchs in Russia.
And the idiots vote for it because they've been brainwashed by propaganda to think they'll be part of the elite once it's over.
It was never possible even under normal circumstances
This is what I’ve been saying, building factories is already an expensive and time consuming process, then you slap high prices on everything you need to make a factory work it’s going to be out of reach for basically anyone and the few who can afford it likely wouldn’t anyway because like this describes it’s not fiscally responsible but also the US is in decline why would you be putting an enormous investment into a wildly unstable system? If you want manufacturing in the US building factories needs to be reasonable price wise and you need consumers with the funds to do the consuming, neither of which can be delivered now
“Consumers with the funds to do the consuming” well wouldn’t that be grand. Unfortunately that would involve paying people and executives are allergic to basic decency even when the core of it is ultimately selfishness.
You don't say. That kind of seemed obvious from the very fucking start. Trump is absurdly incompetent or he is actively working to destroy the country. I honestly can't tell which it is.
back to the mines!
But you mean your company isn’t willing to make a years long investment in on-shore manufacturing capacity when the scales that make it advantageous to the company can change in any direction, at any point, for any made-up reason, by any amount? Don’t they love investing in America?
/s+++
You mean that this plan was not fully thought out and is just another reactionary policy that will do more harm than good? Shocking!