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[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It should be a European project not only for NL

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 105 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A) It's forgejo, so any forgejo instance (including Codeberg) can access it (since it's federated.

B) Coordinating something like this eu-wide is much more difficult than in just the netherlands.

[–] eodur@piefed.social 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think forgejo is fully federated yet. Unless they had a big release in the last week.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

not yet, I guess it'll take some time to arrive there

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[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 38 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just like the Fediverse, it's actually better and healthier if more people/groups/nations host their own (whether public or private). More diversity, less centralization.

The lack of clean and transparent federation between them is certainly inconvenient but is not a permanent roadblock, it is simply a known and well-understood technical problem that work is ongoing to solve. git itself already has very mature support for complete decentralization and decentralized workflows, it's all of Github's feature layers like user accounts, PR management, issue tracking, CI/CD and the various other workflow and project management layers that may need to be connected and federated across the different Forgejo-based platforms (and hopefully other platforms too in the future). Users and permissions and PRs and issue reporting are among the most critical parts, and I think they are looking at Fediverse's ActivityPub as a method for enabling much of that.

The more large organizations that choose to build their own viable, permanent and financially stable Forgejo platforms, the more attractive and necessary proper federation between them becomes, and the more assured it will become the first-class feature it needs to be.

We are not building a mere Github replacement that drops into its centralized place, wears its shoes and follows its same path to inevitable corporate capture and enshittification. We are building a decentralized standard to be the democratic foundation for future software development and collaboration that no one can, should, or will be able to exclusively control. It's not done yet, but this the right way for it to start so that something like SourceForge (for those old enough to remember that trainwreck) or Github never becomes a problem again.

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[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 96 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Alright, nobody is allowed to use the word "quietly" in headlines anymore!

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

And here’s the thing most people miss:

~robots are writing this junk~

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can I apply for an exemption?

[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Only if you do it quietly.

[–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

why not just use codeberg?

[–] progandy@feddit.org 117 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They do use the same software. I think it is a good idea they run a separate instance, so the hosting costs are automatically covered by the government for the code they develop. This also avoids the centralization on a single provider.

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 70 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Digital sovereignty. Codeberg is funding development of forgejo. Forgejo will federate to other instances. So you can have your own repo and someone on another forgejo can interact remotely. So no need for centralized platforms anymore. Power of the Fediverse! :-)

[–] eodur@piefed.social 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure it does not federate yet. Please correct me if I'm wrong though.

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

Correct. YET! Coming SOON! And powered by ActivityPub! It's a super hero!

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So ELI5, my projects are hosted on Codeberg - they can be accessed through the NL's new instance? Are they mirrored there, or is it just a redirect to the Codeberg host? or???

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[–] TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago

they wanna own their infra i guess. not being dependent is a good thing for a gov, and in choosing forgejo they’re basically choosing codeberg after all.

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's the genius of git: it's not tied to any website. Pull your repo from here and push it to there and you're cooking.

[–] shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, that’s true for the git repo itself, but a git forge can provide a multitude of related services, including issues and pull request management, CI/CD pipelines, wikis, static content hosting, package registries, etc. which are not as easily migrated.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I honestly think wiki, static hosting, package registries etc. don't belong on a git repo. Github has continuously extended their feature-set, but its caused vendor lock-in which I think is the point. How hard is it to spin up a web service to host static content? There are loads of good open source wiki projects, etc.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The website around it is also just optional. You can dump git repos anywhere you want.

Of course the website is helpful and adds tooling, bit it's an extra nonetheless

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yep, amazingly flexible. If Linus had only ever made git, he'd have gone down as one of the greats.

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Git forges provides a lot of features these days now. From Merge requests, forks, issues tracking, secret branches, to team management stuff.

A lot more stuff gets bolted onto but they are arguably more optional but for some are the point lol

Like ci/cd at the forge level is the best to me for dev centric flows

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[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Oops, I read the headline like the neanderthals are building their own github and got really curious!

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[–] timestatic@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Don't we have GitLab and Codeberg already? I mean I'm here for variety and choice but this isn't grounbreaking

uhm, this is about a Forgejo instance. Which Codeberg also uses...

[–] oce@jlai.lu 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hi, I'm the brave soul reading it for you.

Currently, the Dutch government's code is spread across GitHub and GitLab, neither of which is under government oversight.

GitHub got ruled out first because it's proprietary software, which directly conflicts with the government's own policy of preferring open source when options are equally suitable.

GitLab made it further in the evaluation but didn't survive it either. The issue was its open-core model, where the Community Edition is genuinely free software but the Enterprise Edition is not.

Forgejo came out on top due to its fully free and open source nature. Licensed under GPLv3+ and governed by Codeberg e.V., a democratic nonprofit, it has no enterprise tier, proprietary upsell, or vendor lock-in problems.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

Oh okay. The title insinuated that they were building their own replacement so I was confused. This seems much more reasonable

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[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Will it have blackjack and hookers?

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's the Netherlands. It will have blackjack, hookers, weed and shrooms.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

git init blacjack

git init hookers

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 week ago

Some alternatives.. codeberg.org sr.ht

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago
[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 12 points 1 week ago

Hup Holland Hup!

Wait scratch that…

Hub Holland Hub!

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Next office replacement. I use excel a lot and lately it became a dog shit.

Last week, out of the blue, I got an error saying excel cannot save this file mind you I’m saving the file on desktop.

[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

LibreOffice exists and works very well!

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[–] udc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't gitlab open source? I recall it was MIT license too

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From TFA:

GitLab made it further in the evaluation but didn't survive it either. The issue was its open-core model, where the Community Edition is genuinely free software but the Enterprise Edition is not.

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[–] BioDriver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As an American I would be very interested in this. Our repositories have been slower and had more errors since Microsoft took over

[–] CactusEcho@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Nice! I just don't like that only Git is supported. Mercurial also needs love.

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Honest question: why use mercurial?

[–] vogi@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

to anybody reading this, could you please be so kind and reply to my comment if the question is answered?
dont think we have @remindme on here. :)

[–] wjs018@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are using piefed, so in the web ui you can click the three dot menu and select the remind me option. This isn't in the api though, so it wouldn't be in a third-party app unless they implemented it separately.

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