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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

And all that for some shitty pngs and the pleasure of not being attended by actual people.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but shouldn't something generating the heat of several atom bombs be utilized as a heat source for making energy, instead of energy used to cool it?

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I haven’t read the article, and am not a thermo-engineer, but the problem is probably one of too low of a heat for too long. To make lower you generally have to boil water into superheated steam and then can use it to turn a turbine where it loses some heat and we can extract that difference as energy. The hottest parts of the chip are probably still cooler than the steam condensing on the output of a standard steam generator.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's really difficult to recuperate waste heat spread across such a large space in a way that doesn't compromise on cooling effectiveness.

[–] Poach@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Basically not enough delta in temperature

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Decades of protests and innovation to stop climate change

VS

one AI techbro

Poof! Progress gone, just like that

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

that is because protesting just raises the awareness of the issue. Its better than nothing, but only direct action has any effect on anything at this point. The billionaires should be considered to be akin to foreign occupation and resisted accordingly.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“When I think about what’s going to lead to intergenerational prosperity in Utah, it is not a data center, it’s the beautify of our landscapes”

This is what’s going to kill us as a species. Because a data center doesn’t do anything. Nothing worth this horrific environmental damage.

At every turn, there’s another terrible consequence to wildlife, more pollution… when did we forget we are animals, too?

Wouldn’t it be great if someone could invent some kind of technology to distribute the compute so it wasn’t so terrifyingly concentrated /s

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

intergenerational prosperity

If I know my rich sociopath talk, this means "generations of MY descendants being old money rich and saluting the giant portrait of ME over their comically large fireplaces."

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (10 children)

An "atom bomb" is not a standard unit of measurement. It's less than helpful.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pffft. An 'atom bomb' as a unit of measurement is (roughly) equal to:

ff x (hdl/afps) x solh x amb

Where:
ff = football fields
hdl = hot dog lengths
afps = average Floridian pants size
solh = Statues of Liberty heights
amb = average medical bill.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 day ago

Americans will use anything but the metric system.

[–] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

Americans will do anything but use the metric system.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many atom bombs less than helpful is it?

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes but at that level of energy no unit is useful for the average person to comprehend. I somewhat understand the usage here. If it was in joules very few people would be able comprehend.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

But then why pick 23, a number with two significant digits, to indicate scale? By this logic, 10 would be as effective at communication.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 233 points 2 days ago (42 children)

generate the waste heat of 23 atom bombs a day.

Americans will do anything but use the metric system.

No, in this case humans are just really bad with large numbers. Most people can't even get the difference between a millionaire a billionaire or a trillionaire, despite orders of magnitude difference.

Sometimes you have to use the power of a bomb or a star, or the amount of time it's going to take for heat death of the universe just to get the point across.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 79 points 2 days ago (10 children)

At least in this case it gets across the truly stupid amount of energy being wasted. As a general rule I think that if you can boil one of the great lakes with your daily thermal output you probably shouldn't be doing it.

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[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Listen guy, maybe you haven’t noticed, but we have some serious fuckery we are trying to deal with here. While I agree that metric is a more logical system. We’re trying to get a grip while everything around us is crumbling. Switching to metric is in like volume 17 of our todo list right now, sandwiched between end daylight savings time and making the my pillow guy eat a sock.

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[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Oh burning more fuel, you having a laugh mare?

Seriously anyone who thinks more carbon in the atmosphere is going to help may as well be in the loony bin.

Also sorry as a Canadian this idiot got vaulted to the world stage. He's a moron as far as I can tell.

I'm just nobody though,but who can understand impact of climate change and the harm we're doing to our world. So piss off with that idea until it produces a way to run without impacting our environment. If somehow you can then hats off to ya, I'd say I'd eat my hat but I really don't want to and I'm a man of my word.

Mean I'd like to say worse and don't expect anything but if somehow it can be better than thank them all. If not, fuck off for the advertisement I've seen enough commercials.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just started having random shark tank clips appear on my YouTube and totally unsurprised this dude is pos, stank vibe since the very first episode.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I propose a hyperscale billionaire cooking center where we drive the heat of 23 atom bombs directly up Kevin's ass.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They should really try boiling some water with that waste heat, maybe make it spin a turbine or two.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know who Kevin is, so I looked at his Wikipedia page and I'm still none the wiser what he's actually done to "earn" all that money. Looks like a serial grifter.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Wanker from Shark tank. Should have been named Wank Tank.

[–] Blibly@lemmy.world 122 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I can't wait to eat Kevin.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 14 points 2 days ago

Only if we can strap him to the heat sinks. 🍽️

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 22 points 2 days ago

But at least when I have to write a professional sounding email I can shut off my brain and make the computer cluster do it!

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

There's actually need for this or they just want to fuck the environment to scam some investors?

Look at Elon musk's gigashit, it's a tenth of this size and because it was underused he was forced to rent it to the competition (anthropic) to pay the bills.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is never getting built

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Look at what happened in Saudi's Neom.

They kicked a bunch of locals off the property, diverted a bunch of local waterways, dropped millions of tons of concrete onto a foundation, and then ran out of money, gave up, and walked away.

You got all horror of industrial terraforming but none of the promised payout.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

How much in terms of bear farts per cubic nautical mile is that?

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 90 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Well, Davies has a point, communicating scale is the difficult part.

So, for those familiar with computers, think Scott this:

A typical Word doc or PDF is several hundred KB's (kilobyte =1000 bytes) to 1MB (Megabyte 1m bytes) a jpg picture your phone takes, is 3-4MB. A full HD movie streamed online will be about 9GB (Gigabyte =1b bytes) of data. Obviously a movie is thousands of "images" stitched together so is file size with be significantly more. The same goes for that energy usage.

Similarly, Homes are measured in kW usage (technically usage per hour or kWh) on a monthly basis. You might use ~800-1,000kWh per month, maybe 10,000-11,000kWh a year. But let's call it 1000kW are used, so 1mW or 1 megawatt. This data center would need at least 9,000x more energy per month as it's gW scale, not mW or even kW... Plus, its power plant will be close by, so you're creating heat and pollution to make the 9+gW energy and then USING up that energy and dumping 8+gW of heat, so his example calculated 16gW of heat being generated... That's the equivalent of a good 16k homes, or ~60,000 people use.

THE KICKER that's just to run the data center, think of the demand for the HVAC and ecological damage to using a lake's water to cool equipment (water would be coming out over 100⁰F)..

Fuck AI!

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