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The U.S. is eyeing Greenland while Russia continues to carve up Ukraine. I believe the US will place soldiers on Greenland in an attempt to annex it. I think it will likely happen before Trump's term ends.

If (hopefully not when) the U.S. pressures Ukraine into accepting a bad deal with both Washington and Moscow for "peace", will they leverage that outcome—along with the Greenland situation—to further erode European sovereignty?

Europe cannot realistically fend off the US on Greenland? And certainly not while being pressured by both Russia and the US on different fronts? I am so fucking glad Europe got nukes.

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[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

Another factor: China is planning to be ready to take Taiwan in 2027. I'm guessing Trump would endorse it, as he has with Ukraine to Russia.

After the China invasion, seems like the time that he would announce plans to invade Greenland/Canada/Panama soon afterwards, if there is a serious plan to actually take over allied territory.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I presume yes.

Trump's US and Putin's Russia are natural ideological allies - both oligarchic and autocratic kleptocracies dominated by quasi-religious moralism and repression, militaristic imperialism and white supremacism and both warped and corrupted to the benefit of the wealthiest few.

Western Europe, with a greater (if still less than optimum) focus on egalitarianism, social welfare, equality of justice, international cooperation and respect for the law, is the natural ideological enemy of both.

So yes - I believe the long term goal is for a US/Russia alliance to go to war against and devastate western Europe, to destroy the EU and NATO and essentially bring Europe into the fold, to build a globe-encircling empire of corruption, oppression and malfeasance -a modern-day feudal system with the wealthy few (individuals and corporations) as the new nobility and the people - American, Russian and European alike - reduced to the status of serfs.

[–] j_elgato@leminal.space 0 points 8 months ago

There are no checks. There are no balances. There is nothing stopping them...

This isn't Trump's vanity - this is the oligarchs, who do not care about nation states, carving up the globe as a resource grab.

The US will annex Greenland. The US will invade Canada. The US will kill protesters, starting with the students.

Concentration camps. Gulags. The disappearing of opponents and mass killings of the undesirables.

Europe will try to unify, but their democracies are already beset by oligarchs, from Putin to Musk, who are financing newly emboldened far-right fringe groups and political candidates.

Europe may rally and pull together.

Or, they may fracture from external pressure and splinter from internal dissention; that is the plan.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The plan Putin and Xi have is probably to get the US mired in conflicts with Mexico and Canada, which would leave Europe isolated and more willing to deal with Russia. Russia has a lot of energy reserves, and they want to use them as leverage against Europe. Control of Ukraine energy reserves should be a top priority for Russia.

The US is sending lots of oil/ng over to Europe to make cutting off Russian oil feasible. Without US oil, Europe is going to have a hard time functioning, and they would have to start talking with the Russians.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

This is why renewable energy isn't just for energy security, it's for national security.

[–] MrMobius@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The US won't annex Greenland, that would basically make a pariah of them on the international scene. Like Russia there would be economic sanctions, trade deals would be broken, american assets abroad would be seized and this could include american military bases. So yeah, most likely the US governmint is gonna keep acting like a childish bully trying to drive a wedge between Greenland and Denmark. And maybe between every european nations…

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

that would basically make a pariah of them on the international scene.

Uh.