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[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 71 points 1 hour ago (8 children)

Some things I've learned throughout the years that may be useful to some people:

  • if your aim is to use a lot of energy, dialing down the intensity significantly and working for a longer time is the way to go
  • basically all cardio machines at the gym are going to be boring as all hell, going outside and doing activities is a lot more fun
  • baking in activity into your day-to-day routines is very helpful. Transporting yourself by biking, walking, taking transit, a mix of all of the above makes a large difference
  • cardio as a means of losing weight has a downside in that vigorous exercise provokes a lot of hunger. make sure to combine with small sustainable changes in diet for best results
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 36 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I've learned that cardio can work, but there's also a lot of truth to that "you can't outrun a bad diet" saying. Like you said, your body can subtly undermine your work by making you more hungry, and it can also cause you to be less active in between exercise without realizing it.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 15 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Last year I cut out 95% of all junk food and snacking, started eating more lean protein (like chicken), and made sure to cut out ultra processed foods where I could (i.e. home-cooked meals vs frozen dinners), and without increasing exercise I lost 20 lbs in 2 months. Sometimes it really is the diet that holds you back.

[–] bright@piefed.social 3 points 4 minutes ago

That isn't a surprise, diet makes a massively bigger difference than exercise, but the real goal needs to be sustainability.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 4 points 17 minutes ago

That's a fantastic result, nice job.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 20 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My body isn't subtle in the slightest.

Any amount of work?

We're starving, we're starving! Says my body, like the cats who have a still almost full bowl of food.

Stupid meat husk.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 45 minutes ago

Right? (I know it's not the same) but come on look at all of this fat you can burn! You're not hungry, you're lazy, you know, like I want to be.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 18 minutes ago

basically all cardio machines at the gym are going to be boring as all hell, going outside and doing activities is a lot more fun

I have health issues so I can no longer go biking outdoors, but I use the app KinoMap (like Peloton but without brand lock-in) to view POV video of bike trips and the app adjusts resistance over BT according to the road topology.

I pick out a map/video and internet radio or a playlist from the country it is recorded. It makes exercise much easier and more fun for me and is way more engaging than staring at numbers on a display.

They also have videos for running trails and rowing and additional social media stuff that I am not interested in.

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 10 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

What is this "going outside" you are talking about? Sounds very interesting

[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Men, been there, you're not missing out.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

The outside experience is extremely location dependant.

[–] morto@piefed.social 2 points 16 minutes ago

my house would be outside experience if I didn't live inside it. It's all a matter of perspective

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 minutes ago

The daystar!

[–] Elting@piefed.social 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Personally Ive never been able to lose weight except by eating less. Lost 8 pounds backpacking in 5 days once though, was probably atleast a 2k calorie deficit per day.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

CI, CO

I can leverage my superpower of laziness and simply not eat all day, a couple of times a week, and lose 30 lbs. It's way easier ΓΎan exercising.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 1 points 57 minutes ago

The other thing is that by not eating, your stomach will shrink. Pretty fast too, within a week of eating less your stomach will become smaller and it will become easier to feel full.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

I find physical activity suppresses my appetite, so I tend to lose weight when outdoors just from not thinking about eating as often and not eating as much when I do because I feel full with less.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The boring as hell part can be managed with a smartphone and some movies.

Of course depending on the specific machine. Some are better for it than others.

I prefer elliptical machine as it spreads the load out all across the body and it's the easiest to manage the load with it to aim for some specific heart rate zones. At the same time i have almost 2(1+1) undistributed hours to watch whatever movie or TV show i want. More peaceful than watching those at home.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 points 2 minutes ago

Distraction devices tend to be less effective on indoor machines for me personally. I do listen to a bunch of podcasts for outdoor runs/bike rides though, and find them to be an essential part of the process

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

There's little to no evidence that cardio excerse leads to weight loss. Groups who restrict calorie intake alway out perform the exercise group in weight loss studies and there's never any significant difference between 2 groups who both restrict calories but one exercises and the other does not.

It's a fundamental misunderstanding of how we use glycogen for moving around and fat as an emergency reserve. If we remember that we evolved as persistence hunters, it starts to make more sense. I.E. what's the point in putting on a layer of fat for a winter reserve, if you could accidentally run it off chasing down a meal? Those that could run it off chasing down a meal didn't survive the hard winters and those that didn't lived.

The whole idea that you could do cardio to lose weight was invented by food producers to make people think they could treat their diet like a credit card and payback overspending with exercise. That way, we would eat more and they would make more money. It's also the reason it's called cardiovascular exercise and not weight-loss excersise.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 49 minutes ago

if your aim is to use a lot of energy, dialing down the intensity significantly and working for a longer time is the way to go basically all cardio machines at the gym are going to be boring as all hell, going outside and doing activities is a lot more fun

If you are having enough fun, even high-intensity can be maintained far longer than you'd think possible when doing something that's engaging. Still, spending 1 hour in zone 4-5 is probably gonna burn less calories than a 1.5 hour workout centered on zone 3.

cardio as a means of losing weight has a downside in that vigorous exercise provokes a lot of hunger. make sure to combine with small sustainable changes in diet for best results

But what if you just work out so intensely, that you're too tired to eat? Its funny to me that the body can have like a 4K calorie deficit for the day and still just be like "No food. That's a problem for tomorrow. Sleep now." Probably a case where ignoring your body is a good idea.

[–] determinist@kbin.earth 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

even going for a walk is probably as effective

[–] Doug@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago

I tried to up the effectiveness of my walks with a weighted vest, but my god do those things make you look like a douchebag.

Plus I’m a white guy with transition lenses who doesn’t like getting a sunburn on my neck, and appreciate the utility of cargo shorts.

So I’m a white guy, in sunglasses, a backwards hat, and cargo short; that, to me, just screams ICE agent, which I do not want to be associated with.

I need to zhuzh up my wardrobe with bright colors or something.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Humans are hilariously efficient at running. Skipping a candy bar is easier than running two miles.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 23 minutes ago

Speak for your fucking self. I run about as well as a 65 year old tractor left out in the sun

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's crazy how much work it is to maintain a mid physique. I gym/cardio 6 days a week and am training for a marathon and will still put on weight if I don't track what I eat.

[–] homes@piefed.world 11 points 1 hour ago

Had a short walk to the store and back. About 130 cal burned. Then I drink a big glass of milk. 300 cal.

Awesome

[–] etherphon@piefed.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If your goal is losing weight then yes it is underwhelming to say the least, but you should just totally ignore that number and focus on how the exercise makes you feel instead because I promise it's not a drag and you will feel good about it if you approach it right and make it a habit, if you are pushing yourself way too hard then it is going to be miserable. Take your time, ease into it, then it will feel nice to be able to run or bike some miles without being totally winded.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago) (2 children)

Yeah, long brisque walks and other low impact exercise helps your body's internal systems in ways that are more beneficial than just weight regulation. I started walking a couple miles every other day a month ago and despite not losing any significant weight yet I just sleep better, my digestive track is working better, and I just feel better overall.

Missed it due to weather the last few days and I clearly need to get out for a walk this evening.

Note: I feel miserable while I am doing the exercise, the good feeling is the rest of the day.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

I notice a huge improvement in just about everything when I'm going on walks frequently. I'm sure the exercise and vitamin D is most of it, but it's also sort of meditative and good for clearing your head.

[–] etherphon@piefed.world 2 points 35 minutes ago

I feel good once I get over an initial exasperation, say about 5-10 minutes into the exercise, once I push through that I feel pretty golden and the exercise starts to feel good. I suppose it is different for everyone though, but yeah the good feeling does persist throughout the day as well so it's definitely worth it in any case.

There's some post-exercise calorie burn (measurable as excess post-exercise oxygen consumption) beyond just what the machine says. Some people have found much better effects from repeated shorter bursts of intense cardio (aka HIIT).

Still, personally, I get the best results from doing both slower steady cardio for long periods of time (more absolute calories) and occasional faster speed work (probably more post-exercise calories and more adaptation in my cardiovascular system and bones/muscles/tendons to get better at exercising next time).

And once you get better at exercise, it becomes possible to really burn calories enough to where you have a better calorie budget for eating more delicious food.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 2 points 51 minutes ago

The important stuff is not the energy expended during training, it is the increased BASELINE energy expenditure your body has when training on the regular. Muscle mass uses energy, even during periods of low activity.

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago

caloriemaxxing doesn't just have to be on the treadmill: You can also suffer on a stationary bike!

[–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

You burn 73 calories by running less than 10 minutes.
A 30 minute jog burns over 300.
Do that twice a week and it amounts to a body weight difference of 90 lbs. (300000 calories) over 10 years with the same diet.
A healthy weight isn't something you achieve quickly and then you're done and can go back to your old "normal".

The human body is kinda magical. If you live an active life, take the stairs, exercise, commute by bicycle, and walk a lot, it'll change to become better at being active over time.
If you sit on your ass all day and eat a lot, it'll optimize itself for sitting on its ass and eating a lot.
So your body does its best to adjust to what you want to do.

(Of course there are medical exceptions where that doesn't work right, too. And the prevailing culture and car-centric infrastructure in the US doesn't make it exactly easy to be active in your daily life.)

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 47 minutes ago

Or don't cancel out your workout immediately?

Hams:
"73!"

[–] fedikitty@piefed.social 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You can get one of those under desk peddles. After a while you barely notice.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I can't pedal and write code at the same time. I can't focus and concentrate to read and understand things while trying to pedal, it's too distracting.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It’s too bad chewing doesn’t burn more calories.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 1 points 30 minutes ago

Just chew gum. You get get a workout and your daily dose of petrochemicals