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[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Spain generally is a lot better on the rights of Palestinians than any other European countries except maybe Ireland (but Ireland still allows the US to use their bases for refueling)

Having said that. Cops everywhere are soulless thugs, the lowest scum on earth. ACAB.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Cops are an instrument of state violence so it's generally reflective of the state if left unchecked (which it usually is).

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Generally eu are pretty decent on this but states/countries need to consider how they use force. Esp in the light of how radical groups will galvinise this. Radical should be used in the correct sense, not in the way that we have all be conditioned to align it with extreme terrorism.

At this point it goes against the messaging these states have been parroting the last 20 years. Be a good citizen and report/oust those activist groups. Nothing turns you against the state than a state that beats or starves you.

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Having been beaten by EU cops, our cops are little better than any other's. Slightly less corrupt I guess.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

It's also pretty reflective of the person who decides to become a cop.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Israel demands justice for Gaza supporters ?

That doesn't sound right.

[–] markko@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's the Jerusalem Post. It shouldn't even be allowed here

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[–] Quokka@quokk.au 41 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No, they’re trying to frame Spain as hypocritical and push the narrative that it’s not only them abusing the flotilla activists which lessens the seriousness of what Israel did.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

And they have beef with Spain since Spain has been possibly the most critical and outspoken against Israel in regard to Palestine.

[–] zenzanzoo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Kudos for showing the true mechanisms of the Israel manipulations.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Okay now that makes sense

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They're trying to imply that the flotilla activists cause trouble wherever they go and that beating them is almost unavoidable, just to get them to comply with their orders.

There's just a couple of differences that Israel left out.

  • The Spanish police didn't invade international waters and kidnap the flotilla activists to beat them.
  • The flotilla activists complied with the Israel army, as soon as the army illegally invaded their ships and pointed their guns at them.
  • The Spanish police haven't been accused of raping any of them (that I have heard).
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

if you read the article it was basically a tu quoque

they are saying you accuse us of treating the activists badly and then go around and beat them

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/SiaYlwlvhKg?ra=m

then israel followed up by saying yeah they’re annoying now you have to deal with them

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Tu quoque, literally "you, too", is a rhetorical technique that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by attacking the opponent's own personal behaviour and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, so that the opponent appears hypocritical. This specious reasoning is a special type of ad hominem attack.

From Wikipedia

[–] king_comrade@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Acab... Have we learnt nothing? Be they white or black, male or female, old or young, foreign or local, cops are ALWAYS the bad guys.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

I know this is rhetorical, but yeah, we as a humanity, basically learn nothing, and it's sad as hell.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago

The "little" difference is that almost everyone in Spain is with the assaulted while almost everyone in Israel is with the aggressors.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago
[–] bampop@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Israel demanded answers from Madrid over the treatment of the activists

Wait, what.... this must be like when someone's sucking your dick quite vigorously and you need to tell them to ease off a bit

[–] emmanuel_car@k.fe.derate.me 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Clearly sarcasm because of how Spain has condemned Israel’s treatment of the flotilla

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not saying these police represent Spain as a whole. Fascists gonna fash wherever they are

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

ACAB, and I can't believe I'm defending Spain, whose police would almost certainly have done the same, but it seems to be the ertzaintza, the Basque police, so if anyone they're supposed to represent Euskadi, not Spain.

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

More twelve them to suck harder

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mossad agent in the Spanish Police?

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I dont kkow about spain, but where i live, they are everywhere

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

ACAB, but I'd have expected it to be the guardia civil (for some cops are more bastards than others), but looks like it was the ertzaintza, the Basque police.

Which means that Israel has even less of an argument, since it's not either of the two main Spanish police forces, and they're not directly under the Spanish government's jurisdiction.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, yes, the Jerusalem Post spin on things ...

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