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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

Websites using 'tech stacks' and AWS services to serve up what should be static html is the crime of the decade.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I remember when porn was a hard to a way that took off it did to it and what came of it is obvious, which is why I am addict now. It's like all day bro.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Which is why net neutrality is such a big issue. And, why the billionaires don't want it:

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/03/nx-s1-5247840/net-neutrality-fcc-struck

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember when we were told every millisecond made sites lose users, and nowadays they download an entire OS worth of spyware without consequences. So we are going back to dial up load times soon enough.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 3 points 1 day ago

What do you mean soon?

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 171 points 1 day ago (3 children)

With dial up, it felt like it was working. It was trying its best.

Now it feels like it's bogged down with ads and tracking and bots.

[–] poinck@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

or billions of redirects. I am looking at you, SAP.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Jesus doesn't, therefore this is not consensusual

Dial up was offering you something you might not have ever seen before.

Not loading your page full of ads while you try to pay a utility bill.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 2 points 1 day ago

Ads? What are they?

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Back then if it took more then that to load it was because you picked on a piece of media not the homepage.

Nowadays it's them making you download 300MB of JS so they can make images rotate in a gallery.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Yea JavaScript.

Afterwards they let you pick which of them they should run, ignore your choice, upload your drive to Google and install a crypto miner.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Remember early 2000s when one of the metrics to be a good website was how many milliseconds it took to load?

If your site had 120ms of overhead, it wasn't professional.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I remember the early 2000s internet, playing Ogame, trolling RP internet forums, browsing illegal pornography on 4chan with WT Snacks, damn, that was the real wild west of the internet...

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely. I remember when Google Chrome started to be a thing, they had an actual video ad showing that it could load and render the Google homepage in like 100 ms. And so we all switched from Firefox, which had become large and bloated.

Now Chrome is full of a ton of useless crap, most web pages are painful without ad blockers, and there is pretty much zero effort put into efficient web design.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I moved back to Firefox soon after, and after the ad blocker ban I'm glad I made the switch back then

[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Pepperidge Farms remembers!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fun thing here is that pages actually loaded faster back then when internet access was via modem.

If you analyze a modern web page, e.g. an article from a newspaper, you usually download 20, 50, or even more megabytes in total: frameworks, tracking, and, worst of all, advertizing. All for maybe 2 kilobytes of text, and maybe 50 kilobytes of article-related picture.

All that junk did not exist back then. You only got a logo, and maybe the name of the paper as b&w image resembling the printed version, and a line of links for navigation as the only overhead. And the logo and title would be in the cache after the first load, and would be reused everywhere on the site without reloading from the net.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yup, it all exists to create employment because we still have an economic model that was around since we burned wood.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Modern websites are bloated trash, so many advertisements and trackers and stupid JavaScript packages to build a shitty UI full of unnecessary animations and shit that adds nothing

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 day ago
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

Nowadays I ragequit every site that doesn't have a "reject all cookies" option.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Part of good website design back then was to set up the webpage so it shows the structure first, then fills in over the rest of the time, and also why interlacing was used a lot for images, so you could see the image gradually form over the load time vs. top to bottom or nothing at all until the end.

If you're really old enough, you remember being able to read the BBS text as it came in.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I mean this is true of MPAs that care about load times as well. Use server side rendering to send the initial HTML structure and then load only the JS that’s needed to interact with the current page state.

[–] Ucarenya@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Feels the contrary as a frontend dev. Young ppl can stand with weird web design and carefully find out where to click in like GitHub or Gmail but old fella rage quit unfriendly desktop GUIs.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

dude....same. I have ZERO chill for shitty UI design.

hide the menu automatically? fuck you.

hide the logout link? fuck you.

block access to ctrl+c? extra fuck you.

there's a special place in hell for product owners and shitty frontend devs right between Nazis and rapist clowns.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Personally, I think a bigger "fuck you" to the browsers that implement parts of standards that give websites more control than users (regarding blocking usual actions). Like with websites, I kinda get it; they don't want you to do something you normally can do for whatever reasons. But when the browser goes along with it, it is a betrayal because the browser was supposed to be on my side, not some asshole web dev's.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

If you’re that old, you earned instant webpage load times.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Because most dial up website pages took 5 seconds or less to load.

I found one of the most graphic heavy websites from 1998, sttng.com and it was 50KB. That's 10 seconds to load on a 56kbs modem (you'd never actually get 56kbs).

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean 56/8 = 7 kB/s, 50/7 = 7.x, just add a bit of latency here and there, not really a surprise if it takes 10 seconds

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes that's why I said 10 seconds. I looked up the webpage on way back and divided it by 56kbs.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

My grandparents still had dialup in the 2010s. I can remember in the early 2000s waiting 20-30 minutes for a Strong Bad Email to start playing so I could show my cousins.

Flash is what really changed things.

[–] homik@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

There was a noticeably bigger lag if it was across an ocean.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow only $5000 to own that domain! What a bargen.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It was owned/run by a teen that was signed up as a customer on my ISP. He got a legal letter from Paramount and gave it up.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it takes 5 seconds to load the website it’s not going to finish. That’s usually an issue at the other end of the intertube.

[–] homik@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or Cloudflare being Cloudflare.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 5 points 1 day ago

i am going to crash out if ONE more website with an average of 4 monthly users puts on cloudflare "Under Attack Mode" and makes me sit through 15 seconds of verification before I can view their stupid webpage

Just use curl ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it only takes five seconds to rage quit, you've got issues.

[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

“The old rage in colder ways, for they alone decide how to spend the young” ifykyk