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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1160169/a-danish-pension-fund-has-blacklisted-spacex-calling-it-grossly-overvalued-with-catastro

AkademikerPension will not buy SpaceX shares at any price near the $1.8 trillion IPO target, saying the company cannot reasonably be worth more than $1 trillion and that Musk’s voting control makes it effectively uninvestable

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 5 months ago

That sounds like someone takes their fiduciary responsibility seriously. Good job.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Americans with 401k are about to get screwed when this IPOs. They’re wanting to change the index rules. That means every index will have to include this rotten piece of shit. Most 401ks would be affected.
The rule changes include changing how long after an IPO a stock can be included in an index fund Right now it’s a year. They want it to be weeks.

[–] wasabi@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This makes me feel better about exchanging all US index funds in my 401k into International index funds. I may regret this because markets can be irrational for a long time, but it certainly feels like the US is circling the drain. The fallout will impact International of course, but what else is there to invest in?

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 7 points 5 months ago

I’m happy for you. Sadly, my employer retirement plan does not allow me to select my investments. Only target date funds which track the total world stock market. At least it’s diversified.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 5 months ago

You can go for an equal weight s&p to avoid the oversized influence of the mag 7 and the other oversized bubble stocks.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Teachers PF won't touch this IPO with a 12m pole.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t know how the teachers funds work. But if they invest in index funds they’ll be affected.

[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

It depends if they invest it in funds that track the Nasdaq directly. If they do, yes then they’ll get dragged in for a fast pump and dump.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 months ago

Now do Tesla please.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 months ago
[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s because it bloody is.

They’ve got one business unit making money (and to be fair, that business unit is making crazy margins) - Starlink - and one business that could be profitable if it turn down the starship R&D. But it’s so crazily leaning into “AI in space” for its insane multiples - and leaning in to achieving a dominant position there, when both China, Japan and other US companies are prepping reusable launch vehicles.

I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole and if I could blacklist it in my passive fund I would. That said mine follows the FTSE Russel Global index, which only rebalances every 6 months and with much stricter requirements than the fast-follow Nasdaq funds, so by the time any passive investment of mine jumps on SpaceX its real value will be much more apparent.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You forgot about the absolute piece of shit log that they threw in there containing Xitter just to burn off the profits.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago

When the crash finally comes, whoever goes all in on short sells in Tesla, Palantir, and SpaceX will be so fucking rich.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

Oh, this could be fun. I mean, the entire market is about to collapse when AI companies can't deliver and this might be the first card to fall.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Me, looking around at every other company in existence: uhh... guys...

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Theres overvalued with catastrophic governance, and then there's everything Elon Musk is attached to. For example, Tesla is valued at 1.6 trillion - more than the next 29 car companies combined - and recently agreed an almost 1 trillion pay package which would be something like $130 000 per every Tesla ever sold.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's made up value so he can borrow against it. You dont pay taxes on borrowed money.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No salary, and the stock value is contingent on the company meeting some ambitious goals over 10 years.

Unfortunately the article doesn’t say what happens if they don’t nor is it comparing to anything: are those goals as ambitious as they look when we’re talking 10 years? I don’t know

If you argue that musk’s talent is a reality distortion field creating bubbles, it has historically panned out pretty well. The original Tesla bubble was the reason they were able to grow fast enough to be where they are today

…. Personally I’m skeptical of most ai businesses surviving when that bubble pops, and I’m very skeptical of their being a market for a million humanoid robots that cost as much as a car