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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 133 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Raping Children is TERRIBLE! Wait ISRAEL is doing it? Your ANTI SEMETIC if you HATE Raping Children!

-The BBC!

[–] M137@lemmy.today 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (25 children)

Far more than the BBC, including many here on lemmy. Fucking swine (them, not you).

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[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Every link within that news website leads to more of the same website. The last place I saw this was rebel media.

I'm not out to discredit etc but I do think it may be wise to look for external confirmation.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The part about Avraham Bezalel being forced to resign from the Knesset was widely covered, as was the questioning of Hanoch Milwidsky by the police.

I haven't chased down sources beyond that, having limited time.

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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is literally no possible bottom to the pit of evil these Zionist revel in to achieve their Jewish state.

[–] square@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You ain't wrong, but this is shit done within the settler communities to other Jews, not the Palestinians.

[–] EatingOnions@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But everyone is involved not just settlers

She said she had received testimonies from several women who alleged that 'doctors, educators, police officers, and past and present members of the Knesset' were involved in the abuse. 

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

... shaking Israel's religious-Zionist sector.

I kinda doubt that, they must be just "slammed" about the whole thing getting out though.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

My first reaction to this headline, coming from a german speaking country, was that it sounds like a neonazi hitpiece (it wouldn't be the first time that neonazis would spread allegations like this).

The article quickly made me realize that those allegations have a lot of substance and credibility.

Any zionists here who wanna explain why i now have to say that some fucking nazis had a point?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Zionism is as much representative of Judaism as NAZIsm is representative of all Germanic people.

Just because these ethno-Fascist White Supremacist groups claim they represent a specific ethnicity doesn't mean they do.

Granted, Zionism has lasted a lot longer and there is a lot more parroting of the whole equating Judaism with Zionism in countries with a captured Press and/or Fascists traditions, so it's understandable that many will actually believe that idea as pushed by Zionists, but there are plenty of Jewish voices saying that's not so (curiously one which is called Jewish Voices For Peace and has just been deemed by a German Court an "Extremist Organization" for their criticism of Israel, which is interesting given the parallels between NAZIsm and Zionism).

Anyways, there is no such thing as a politican ideology or a country which represents an entire ethnicity - that would logically require that all people of a ethnicity are the same (i.e. "they're all the same") which is a foundational stone of Racism. I guess most people who believe the equivalence between Israel/Zionism and the Jewish People seem to have just accepted it a face value and never have really analysed it it down to its component parts and thus did not realize that such equation of one and the other relies on pure ethnic prejudice about people based on ethnicity.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is the polling on % of American Jews supporting Israel? Or individual synagogues being pro or anti Zionist? One Jewish zionist I was talking to recently said Jewish Voices for Peace represented a tiny minority and was very dismissive about the extent of antizionism among Jews in general but I'm sure she has a bias.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I vaguelly remembers reading that in the latest polls about half of Jews in the US do not support the actions of Israel, tough the ones who are actually against the existence of Israel are much less (I think it was less than 20%, but am not sure anymore).

I'm in Europe and a lot of the Press here is a lot more open about the actions of Israel and less prone to the Manufacturing ConsentI spin on stories about the actions of Israel, so I suspect that in average the views of Jews here towards Israel are more negative than for those in the US (though I suppose that depends on the country: I wouldn't be surprised if hard-core Zionist beliefs were more common in the UK and Germany than in the rest of Europe). This would be consistent with the view of Israel amongst the population in general in Europe being a lot more negative than in the US.

Independently of that, were exactly do you set the "these guys represent you and everybody like you even if you disagree" boundary? In other words, how many Jews must believe that "Israel does not represent me" for it to be false that Israel to represent the Jewish People? Also, if the numbers fall below that at one point, does that mean that Israel doesn't represent the Jewish People anymore or is it a sticky representation whether people want to or not?

The whole domain of anything or anybody representing an entire ethnicity without even a Democratic election is a massive minefield of Prejudicial and even Racist presumptions.

Beyond that, the entire subject of Zionism and Israel representing an entire etnicity (the Jewish People) carries the very same strong stink as NAZIsm and NAZI Germany representing an entire etnicity (the Arian Race).

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Dive into the Epstein files, Ghislaine Maxwell and for bonus credit the Franklin incident. I wasn't surprised sadly

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Yup. Me neither. Wherever there is an excess of money/power and entitlement, some perverted shitheel is going to organize pedophilia (and/or other sexual extremes) with other perverted shitheels. The entitlement tells them they should have whatever they want, then the money/power gets it for them and keeps it protected from external interference, and the train rolls on.

Epstein himself made a career of trading influence and favors on exactly that: occasionally he made the mistake of offering sexual access to minors to the wrong person and then he'd back off immediately, saying, "No, that's not what I meant, bad joke, but wouldn't you like [some other elite thing, like meeting a celeb] instead," and no one would even bat an eye.

Israel is already credibly accused of raping everyone but children -- men, women, prisoners, detainees, settlers -- when it comes to Palestinians, activists, and others, so who legitimately thinks they're not ALSO raping the kids?

Israelis applauded the two soldiers accused of raping a Palestinian man in detention, and of course the charges were dropped, so when that policy comes from the top down and many are even applauding the rapists, what possible restriction of sexual violence then applies to the children?

When you strip away insane amounts of money and power, and the perks and exclusivity and protection that money and power buy, you will always find that evil is indeed banal, and the vices that consume the poorest also consume the richest.

See the following articles for graphic descriptions of how Israel is using sexual violence as an act of war:
The Silence That Meets the Rape of Palestinians - NYT
Israeli soldiers using sexual assault to force Palestinians out of West Bank, report says - The Guardian
“More than a human can bear”: Israel's systematic use of sexual, reproductive and other forms of gender-based violence since October 2023 - UN Human Rights org (OHCHR)

And there are a lot more where that came from, unfortunately.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

ghislaine following in her fathers footstep with the whole zionism bit, ghislaine just went the whole extra mile.

[–] originaltnavn@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not a zionist, but you thankfully don't have to. It is a proven fact now that the israeli state does a lot of messed up objectively evil stuff, but that was never the point of the nazis where I live at least. What I have heard from that crowd, is that all semitic people groups, especially the Jews, should be killed off. There is thankfully nothing in the news to back up that idea, and it is as insane as arguing for global persecution of all baptists in retaliation for American wars in the middle east. The neonazis I have met have simply hopped on this latest war to spread their hate opportunistically.

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[–] 6244901@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago

I’m scared to even click this article :’)

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 14 points 1 day ago

What fucking scum.

'Shaking' the sector my ass they seem all in on this bullshit.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Given that there has been very little evidence for “satanic” child sexual abuse cults despite rumors going back at least half a century, it wouldn’t surprise me if there is some relation. The devil’s in the details, and these reports ring absolutely true personally.

Please don’t take this as anything against Judaism as a whole, some of my best friends, family, nicest people yada yada. It’s like any powerful religion.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I know that for contemporary Republican politicians, every accusation against their perceived enemies is an admission of something they're doing.

I didn't know that went all the way back to the Satanic Panic.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Nothing satanic, it's just abuse with some dressed up frills to get the victim to accept their abuse. And Israel is choke full of abusers.

Even a survey found that the majority didn't think forcing another person into sex is considered rape.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/view-from-jerusalem-with-harriet-sherwood/2011/jan/21/israel-palestinian-territories

https://www.haaretz.com/2011-01-18/ty-article/study-61-of-men-dont-see-forced-sex-with-acquaintance-as-rape/0000017f-df30-db22-a17f-ffb162e20000

College Study: 41 Percent of Women Students Don't See Forced Sex With Acquaintance as Rape. 61 percent of the male students polled in a small college survey did not equate forced sex with an acquaintance as rape.

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[–] DotairZee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

is there some kind of doctrinal root for this behavior? to have so many people involved from across the spectrum of Israeli society would suggest there is some small kernel here that can justify the behavior. anything?

EDIT: should have noted I am looking for responses that are NOT antisemitic.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

is there some kind of doctrinal root for this behavior? to have so many people involved from across the spectrum of Israeli society would suggest there is some small kernel here that can justify the behavior. anything?

EDIT: should have noted I am looking for responses that are NOT antisemitic.

You pose a valid question, but there's no legitimate Jewish doctrine behind it, any more than there was legitimate Christian doctrine behind it eighty, ninety years ago when the Nazis were doing it to the Jews.

This is not so much a religious question as it is a problem of human nature. When your own national leader makes it clear that even the worst of human behavior is acceptable when you can plead patriotism in its defense, you will find that tacitly given permission magnified beyond your wildest imagination in short order as people with darkness inside them realize there really is nothing holding them back from having a go themselves.

If it were something doctrinal to the Jewish faith, you would also be seeing it outside Israel. If anything, it is a perversion of actual Judaism, just as white nationalism in the US is a total perversion of Christianity.

If you've never read it before, Hannah Arendt's Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil is a great read.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

so i'm not sure whether there's a doctrinal root in it or anything. i never really looked into judaism specifically, but i studied a lot of philosophy and mythology classes and i also talked to a lot of people so i heard some stories. basically some indigenous communities have it too, the puberty is seen as the time where the "human wakes up" (initiation rite), the consciousness is formed, and people differentiate into their later function just like body cells differentiate into one of many types after being cloned from stem cells.

a typical example is boys undergoing puberty rites that sometimes involve some kind of specific pain (like sticking needles through the skin, etc) in order to give them the warrior spirit, because they get used to a live of pain sothat their brain shifts its perception and they don't consciously register it anymore. puberty rites for females are less common and typically less extreme. i'll see whether i can link some sources/examples.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bora_(Australian)

Bora is an initiation ceremony of the Aboriginal people of Eastern Australia. The word "bora" also refers to the site on which the initiation is performed. At such a site, boys, having reached puberty, achieve the status of men. The initiation ceremony differs from Aboriginal culture to culture, but often, at a physical level, involved scarification, circumcision, subincision and, in some regions, also the removal of a tooth.[1] During the rites, the youths who were to be initiated were taught traditional sacred songs, the secrets of the tribe's religious visions, dances, and traditional lore. Many different clans would assemble to participate in an initiation ceremony. Women and children were not permitted to be present at the sacred bora ground where these rituals were undertaken.

just one example but there's countless others from all over the world.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They believe they're better than everybody else, and that most of the rest isn't even fully human. Just like most of other destructive ideologies in history.

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