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I'm completely speechless. This looks so terrible I thought it was a joke, but apparently Nvidia released these demos to impress people. DLSS 5 runs the entire game through an AI filter, making every character look like it's running through an ultra realistic beauty filter.

The photo above is used as the promo image for the official blog post by the way. It completely ignores artistic intent and makes Grace's face look "sexier" because apparently that's what realism looks like now.

I wouldn't be so baffled if this was some experimental setting they were testing, but they're advertising this as the next gen DLSS. As in, this is their image of what the future of gaming should be. A massive F U to every artist in the industry. Well done, Nvidia.

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[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Reading through the comments, this is definitely an unpopular opinion, but while I don't love it, it does look more "realistic" to me, even though it definitely needs to look more like the source material.

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This looks so bad, like uncanny 3d porn bad.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 months ago

Yup. You will soon pay premium for checks notes actual footage of people enjoying fucking?!

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Can't believe DF is so positive about this, just looks horrible. I've actually been quite positive about technologies like DLSS and FSR but this... no thanks.

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[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It feels like homogenization of art. The filter pays no attention to the original art style and just conforms it to nividias Ai style.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev -1 points 6 months ago

The devs can literally control the vectors used. They can even mask it to not apply to some things. Not sure how it calculates lighting though.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They’re being very careful about cutting almost immediately after the DLSS is turned on. It all looks like printed media, not actual video. There’s something very off about the way the details just sort of track along the normals of the surface. Maybe something I’d enable as a novelty in a few rare cases, but certainly not something I’d use to replace any existing solutions.

Edit: There may come a moment in time, like it did for me with RTX (specifically Control) where a game finds a way to work it into the very idea of the look of the game and manages to make DLSS 5 look jaw-droppingly gorgeous. But that will be up to artists, not the geeks at NVIDIA trying to shortcut the artistic process. I can see it being a tool for some rare games, and those are the few I’m actually really looking forward to.

[–] Tywele@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can see more of it in action in the Digital Foundry video.

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[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

it's incredible that this can be done in real time on a consumer GPU.

this is also stupid and completely useless

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

Isn't this like applying instagram filters, which can be done on run of the mill smartphones?

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm I also just thought of how this is it looking the "best" for the demo and that most of the time it will just be the makeup gun set to "whore"

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

I looked at some of the demo images and if it reads old lady, it decides to quintuple the wrinkles and go full witch. But otherwise, yeah, whore gun.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

I bet you're all being used to manipulate stock prices.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago

Insanely impressive that it’s able to do that in real time.

[–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

DLSS of course does use machine learning (transformers or CNNs) which you can call AI if you want, but I think there may be a bit of a misunderstanding about what this new version is actually doing. If you watch the video or read the breakdown they note that DLSS 5 is NOT replacing or altering the original graphical assets in the game with generated ones. There’s no new textures or 3d models being changed here. It only alters the lighting of the game to add more realistic shadows and reflections etc. It’s just that it does that so extensively that it gives the impression of being an almost entirely different image. Kinda nuts that lighting can do that but that is apparently what is happening here.

That said, arguments about artistic intent are still very relevant here since it’s a very different look to how the original devs may have intended.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Hey at least it still runs on your machine.

DLSS 6 will run exclusively on the cloud because RTX 6 series won't ship with any RAM or compute nodes since they all went into enterprise cards lol

[–] Cruel@programming.dev -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Do you guys turn your graphics settings to lowest to make sure not to interfere with "artistic vision"? Or do you just not understand the technology at all?

The dev can literally control the vectors for DLSS 5 and test it for themselves until it looks how they like. If you don't like modifying frames, you should disable all post-processing shaders and most modern anti-aliasing too.

[–] Luccus@feddit.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you guys turn your graphics settings to lowest to make sure not to interfere with "artistic vision"?

This such a bad take and demonstrates a total disregard for the role of technical artists and design.

Anti-aliasing aims to overcome an inherent limitation a raster (of pixels) may present, in oder to bring the actual result closer to an artist’s vision. The same can be said for any other technique. The common denominator is, that they all attempt to bring a artistd vision for their work closer to reality.

DLSS5, on the other hand, brings the result closer to Nvidias vision of what "good" looks like. And I think it looks bland and badly photoshopped and I want to see more good looking games.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev -1 points 6 months ago

Not true at all. Have you not seen all the NES emulators that apply anti-aliasing or other modern graphics techniques to old NES games? Completely changes the dev's vision. You need to disable them.

Or you can just realize that modern devs are working with FSR/DLSS and tweaking it how they want. Just like they been doing with anti-aliasing. They can literally mask portions of the scene so DLSS 5 doesn't apply to it.

Now, many games they showcased likely didn't put much effort into tweaking their performance for DLSS 5 since it's new and they didn't get the chance, but newer games will use it. It's not like raytracing and pathtracing just enhance whatever GPU driver devs want it to. The devs can control it.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 months ago

The second one didn't look too different from the original, but the first and third look so far from the source material, it's jarring.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Lighting in video games encompasses a lot of things these days. I'm not a graphic designer but, to my untrained eye, it looks like this tech is pushing hard on things like subsurface scattering to make materials appear more realistic. It doesn't appear to be changing the actual polygons. This picture further down seems like a more realistic example of what it would end up looking like when the technology is complete. I think they picked that particular first image as an example BECAUSE it's such a stark change.

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[–] maracuya@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

Looks cool to me, photorealism is coming. Not really a gamer, btw

[–] kepix@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

actually helps out in the sports games. ea has the same lightning like they had in 2006, so this takes it up to speed to 2020. however real games gonna look arse. alao 2 x 5090 cards required, donno who the fuck is the demographic. also thanks for killing dual gpu support so you could bring a shit one back.

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to hate on it, but at the same time why is everything AI just hyper-realistic uncanny valley perfectionism BS?

I know people harp on AI for stealing art, but honestly whose art are they stealing? Because its really bad. If we're going to live in a dystopia can they at least steal art of people who are good at it.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Looks fine to me

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