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I've got no problem with them, but these are obviously kids who grew up in a different age than me, and it shows, I know what could seem a joke to me could come off different to them. Especially this being In the trades and the type of jokes we make here. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable, we're all trying to just get through the day after all

Edit: I have learned, they used to be female, transitioned to male. (So trans-masc? I'm probably messing that up) Lesbian, and non-binary, thankfully they brought it up which was very helpful as I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to ask

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[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Im curious what could come off as a joke to you but would offend a trans person but not offend other (similarly aged) people.

If your joke might be offensive to anyone, its probably best to save it for outside of the workplace if you share it at all.

Not saying dont make any jokes, just that your jokes shouldn't be referencing someones gender or appearance or at the expense of someone else in general.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

If your joke might be offensive to anyone, its probably best to save it for outside of the workplace if you share it at all.

That's not good advice. Any joke can be offensive to someone - especially when people are committed to being offended.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I get where you’re coming from, and we’ve all seen bad faith “advice” seeking (sea lioning), but also most of us have interacted with people who are well-meaning yet know they have tons of learned behaviors they’ve never needed to question.

For example, a friend had a boss in a male-dominated industry (construction) who, at the end of a client lunch with several cis men, bid them farewell with “bye ladies.” When they were back in the car she called him out on it “is ‘ladies’ supposed to imply something?” and he immediately admitted “dammit I know. I’m sorry.”

She knew he knew as he said it that it wasn’t the right thing and just hadn’t considered it before, but it took situations like that to make him consider it in advance. And it sounds like he did. She said he began to make eye contact to check his wording in meetings, which she took to indicate it being present in his mind, that he was actually trying.

I’m just saying asking and trying to consider little things in advance is ally behavior and should be encouraged unless it’s obviously in bad faith.

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Generally, keep humor work related, and it'll be fine no matter who it is. Well, there's always that asshole that thinks you have to be a robot at work, but with that sort, it doesn't matter anyway.

Beyond that, either stay neutral with pronouns, or use those that a person introduces.

I promise you, just those two things are going to go a long way in establishing respect and camaraderie.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Humor is the big one. I would start thinking about the jokes that co-workers make, and if everybody would think they're funny. Not just trans folks, but any kind of joke that has a butt of the joke or a stereotype might be good to start getting away from.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I can't speak for trans people, but i would expect that the best course of action is to be yourself and dont mock anyone. You can rib and have a laugh, but dont open with a whole script of trans jokes. Get to k ow them, like you would with anyone and learn the boundaries naturally. If you think of them as different, you will be on edge the whole time and are more likely to mess up.

If you make any mistakes, just be sure to apologise, and i am sure any of them would understand. Ultimately, as far as i understand it, trans people just want to be accepted and allowed to be them selves and be a part of society. The only way that happens is if we dont treat them differently, whether thans positively or negatively.

[–] termaxima@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The thing most people get wrong is mentioning someone’s assigned gender (the one they were presumed to have at birth) instead of the one they actually are. Being reminded constantly of the one thing you absolutely don’t want to be is really disheartening, even when it’s not done on purpose.

[–] Randomocity@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's minor but I probably wouldn't say supposed to have sounds like they are wrong

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your comment highlights one of the difficulties I find with going between treating someone exactly as you would anyone else, while also dealing with particular sensitivities or sensibilities of that person. Even trying to describe how to be less offensive, includes wording that can sound offensive to some, justifiably so based on experience.

But all in all, I think most people will recognize good faith efforts and accept quick apologies and corrections when we make mistakes. We're not perfect.

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[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Since there already are a lot of good answers, do it like in Full Metal Jacket "I don’t look down on you if you’re x, y, z or something - you’re all equally worthless"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tHxf17yJsKs&pp=ygUiZHJpbGwgaW5zdHJ1Y3RvciBmdWxsIG1ldGFsIGphY2tldA%3D%3D

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[–] jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just treat them with respect like anyone else. There are 3 topics to avoid in any work place for anyone: religion, politics, and sex life. That's just a good general rule for all forced mixed company situations.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Avoiding politics might be wise on some level, but by all means do talk about unionizing.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Pick the one that's been working there longest and ask them these questions. Check in they feel ok with how the workplace is trucking

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I'd avoid any and all controversial topics and just keep things purely professional.

Used to be I'd engage with someone based on their physical presentation, but even that is a bit tricky anymore, and with social media blowing up even the most minor misunderstandings, it's best to just keep it professional.

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