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RIP Google Play Music. Have yet to find another streaming service who's algorithm knew me so well to discover new music
That one doesn’t make a lick of sense.
Are you new to the internet?
I am very confused
I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought?
Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube.
Ahhh, that makes sense!
Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn't make one lick of sense
Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn't make any sense
I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option.
It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it.
But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio.
I mean, you're kinda describing what they actually did
Google music was less killed, more rebranded as YouTube Music (but they did launch new app UIs at the same time that were missing various features from the old ones,). I've still got the same library of music I uploaded in Google Music that doesn't exist in their standard library, and you can still upload today.
Being able to have my hundreds of playlists from over the years complete with all the obscure remixes and unreleased bootlegs on them, is pretty much the only reason I still use it over something like Spotify
😂 I haven’t heard that phrase in a southern minute.
there were two things i loved. one i think was called turntable, which let you and friends take turns DJing. you'd queue up a song and then after your 2 or 3 or idk i usually used it with the same group friends got their plays in, you got yours. i don't know what happened to it as we stopped using it.
then was thesixtyone, which had great artist discovery. but they were not the best about getting licenses and lost their eventual IP lawsuit. after that they kind of turned into spotify. i've just been using my private collection since then.
Still mourning Google Reader, luckily we can find consolation i in that all those apps and services weren't strategically killed by an evil corporation.
Yeah i liked it too.
I self host freshrss which is better nowadays.
We all love to rag on Google, but this is such a nonsense website. Most of the things "killed" there are superseded by another product, like AI studio replacing Firebase Studio and Google TV replacing Chromecast. Then there's stuff nobody's ever heard of just to pad the list.
Tenor was quick, great, and optimal solution. I liked it.
Google (Tenor) notified API Users around five months before June 30, 2026, the access restriction date:
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46628926
Klipy is being offered as a direct alternative:
- https://klipy.com/migrate
Discord also migrated to Klipy about a month ago. Yesterday, I saw positive feedback in communities about Klipy's more accurate search.
Worth noting that while Klipy is headed up by ex Tenor employees, Google has also heavily invested in Klipy.
At my community (The Gamers' Tavern) we ditched Discord (when all the age verification crap started) in favour of Discourse and Fluxer (Discord clone, but open source and self hostable) and currently Klipy integration is offering a sketchy and vague pricing model that is looking like it is going to include ads.
So, that's the vein that runs through all of this. Google killed Tenor, funded a new startup that'll eventually likely be somewhere they can of course shove ads into.
Thank you very much for more insightful information! Google has always been a changer, not a talker, and appreciate them!
Yet, may I ask why did you choose Fluxer over Stoat, and if the source of Google investing in it available?
Source: Klipy themselves.
Why Fluxer over Stoat, there is a lot to unpack here, but self hosting was much more mature and well thought out with Fluxer. Docker support was way beyond Stoat, and development is proceeding at a much better rate with mobile apps, integrations etc. We probably answer a lot of the questions here: https://blog.gamerstavern.online/innkeeper/about-community-and-communities
Roger that. Thank you very much for the response and references!
I wish you safety, stability, and peace!
Thanks for the (more insider than i've got) information! I don't know anyone at tenor or klipy. shit, i didn't even know klipy existed.
Tenor was always slow for me and had shit search.
I didn't know it was owned by Google, but now that I do it makes complete sense.
Heads up that there is a self-hosted gif platform I've been tinkering on, original repo is here but it was more or less abandonded. I've been adding to it slowly here: Gifable.
The base repo was good, a selfhosted Gif hosting, but I needed more integrations so I've been managing my own fork for about a year. The largest one is a way that Matrix servers can integrate, so it now actually stands up a matrix server and can federate your gifs with other matrix users. The second item is adding Giphy support (I had Tenor as well... but guess I'll remove that), so you can alternatively search Giphy.
I won't say it's polished, but if Tenor is leaving a sour note in your mouth, having someone else hosting would probably be neat.
Screenshot:
Pfft, "not polished". Looks way more polished than manually dumping shit into a folder on my http server. Thanks!
Github sucks though, unreliable and headed to bad places. Considered mirroring or rehosting it somewhere with forgejo? Self-hostable, or there are some public options
Thanks! Design was mostly the original creators though.
It is mirrored on my private Forgejo instance, github was the original choice if the first eng, I will think about migrating
This looks interesting. I want to host my own discord alternative but gifs were what I missed most.
Happy cake day! Yes San boat. Element was the closest thing I found to discord, but gifs were annoying. Getting this added to apps is the hardest thing, but it's mostly that how to I say "add this integration please" when it's only my one server
You should try Sable! It's way closer to discord than element is.
Also Commet has been pretty good - has an app on android and Linux. Sable is better, but is only webapp.
Whatever replaces Tenor needs to allow for more specificity in searching. If I search "lemur" and I see 3 orangutans, a chimp and a 12 gibbons, and maybe 1 actual lemur, I'm still happy to have simians, but I really needed a lemur, man. I was quite fucking specific in my search term. Had I written "monkey" but it showed me a series of apes, I wouldn't mind that so much.
Also, "cat on skateboard" has fuck all to do with a poorly staged video of a dog playing Tony Hawk's Pro Skater with a set of gaming bongos. Again, glad to see it, but where's my skateboarding cat??
If google got rid of it you can bet there is sone slop shit coming to replace it
That is a good point, they've crammed ai slop into everything yet they can't even fix something basic as image search.
At this point, anyone that relies on a Google service is just asking for trouble.
Yes they will kill off the thing you have grown reliant on, and so you're better off to avoid anything with google
That's kinda been Google's standard operating procedure from the start. Anything they get bored with, they bin. I have refused to adopt any of their tech for a long time because I watched them shutter good products all the time. They are too stochastic and too unreliable to trust with any important data.
I bet they will introduce a sloppy AI gif generator
powered by grok, so you're running a risk every time you use it
running a risk
Your comment made me think of something I had not considered.
Somewhere in this AI image generation infrastructure, there must be some poor asshole who has to look at whatever is made to say its OK or not. Which has to be at least as traumatic as doing the same thing for facebook or any site that has censorship. Or do they use the AI to vet the AI which causes issues like you describe?
“AI” CSAM detection is over a decade old, and apparently very accurate.
It’s oldschool machine learning. Image hosts had no choice but to develop them.
And legal authorities gave them access to datasets to make the detection models.
I think Lemmy uses it. And it’s indeed implemented on “modern” AI sites like CivitAI, and very effective. If it’s ineffective somewhere (like Grok?) that means the owners are total idiots and should be sued.
The real problem was probably that Tenor was free, and Google didn’t see a way it could make money from a GIF API.
The author can’t figure out how a company can monetise an API? Monetisation clearly isn’t the problem here. It’s possible that they’re going to launch a new product incorporating this, or more likely incorporate it into Gemini.
On March 27, 2018, Tenor was acquired by Google. The company has continued to operate as a standalone brand.
Huh, well if you couldn't see a way to make money with it, maybe you shouldn't have bought it...
i'm sure that the site's acquisition was always about user tracking data and never about it being 'profitable' itself.
I covered this in this comment here: https://lemmy.world/comment/24536634
Google basically shuttered Tenor and heavily funded the replacement, which is showing sketchy early signs of ads.
Discord needs to offer a setting that you can pick which gif hosting website you want to search. GIPHY results are fucking ass cheeks.
I’m literally just keeping a browser open with tenor and manually copying the gifs over to discord.
I wish it would at least let me switch from GIPHY search to anything else.
Love seeing how it seems like these tech giants are starting to try to fuck each other up. This will be fun.
i remember tenor search results were freaky/crazy
And giphy results are ultra boring...