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Microsoft is losing Builders fast. They're switching to MacOS and Linux. The biggest pull keeping people on Windows, outside of shear inertia, is content creation and gaming. However, even these are falling to Linux.

Without Builders, you don't have software, and without software, you don't have users. This is why Microsoft needs Windows Lite.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

and developers

Windows developers largely use Windows Server or Enterprise, neither of which have telemetry, spying, ads, or AI, depending on group policy.

I'm a little confused by the inclusion of .NET. Most Windows developers actively use that.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 minutes ago

A lot of games actually require it too

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 49 minutes ago

I wonder if they see the constant, gigantic updates to the framework distributable and think that's a bad thing somehow.

[–] ian@feddit.uk 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

With many critical apps still running on Windows only, Windows needs to get worse!
To push those software companies over to embrace Linux finally. Then the users can follow.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Isn’t this just Windows Embedded?

[–] CalvusRex@lemmy.world 29 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

10 years ago I would have said maybe. Now? Practicly everything that you run on Windows will run, in some form or another, on Linux. Even the hard to crack gaming is now becoming a non issue. There really is no point in Windows any longer.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Microsoft is now offering Azure Linux.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 1 points 48 minutes ago

well, linus won. He said when they'd write software for linux, he won. I guess he quadruple won, since microslop has their own distro

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 hours ago

I had no idea how easy gaming had got since my last attempt with Linux. That was until the most recent Microsoft bugs erased all my files... I was so enraged I didn't even try to recover them, I just installed linux mint. Found out I could indeed play the couple games I've been holding on to windows for. Haven't booted windows since.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 7 points 6 hours ago

I remember saying that in the early 2000s...

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 9 points 6 hours ago

That's just Windows without a lot of the bad stuff. Microsoft will never do it because they earn money from it.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 25 points 8 hours ago

You need to abandon windows. You know their goals. You know they can't be trusted. Stop giving them chances to get it right and fuck you.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

I logged out back in December and haven't used or needed Windows since. Fedora Linux is my pick for a Windows replacement.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What you're describing is the LTSC IoT editions, which are what I run on my Windows boxes.

https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 2 points 44 minutes ago

Seconded. I moved to Win10 LTSC IoT on some, Bazzite on others, and haven't looked back.

I'm never loading naked spyware Win11 again.

When forced to move off win10iot I'll go to win11iot for anything mission critical for windows.

But by then I'd better be 90% MacOS/Linux.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 19 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

We have that. Its called Arch. And I've done .net development on it.

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 0 points 4 hours ago

You probably mean NetCore which is not equal to .NET framework.

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[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

Do i have news for you, youll need .net.
Either for windows stuff, or for your games ( most likely launchers )

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

What is wrong with .NET, it's very useful when running applications which require it which of course is basically every application in a corporate environment.

But yeah all the other things are fine.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago

It's easier to just use Linux.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

If a "lite" version removed their ability to spy on you they'd have to charge you $4,000/year for the privilege, just to make up the difference.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

windows lite

So you mean Linux? No telemetry? No ads? No AI? No .net? Also just works? Also free? Also free as in beer?

Yeah, people need Linux

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

.net is also on linux in some capacity. See the *arr stack as an example.

[–] terabyterex@lemmy.world 32 points 16 hours ago

the fact that you list .net shows you dont have the knowledge to make this claim

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