Oh I got a 7 day ban. Three times cause I don't know when to quit.
And yea I fucking hate. It's cause, technically, property damage is "violent" by the definition. Yet, it's fucking stupid to equivocate damage to inanimate object to damage to a living being.
Was pro Palestine and critical of Israel, so they tried saying I was "promoting hate".
I was also telling people that we are going to have to start going outside the bounds of what is allowed by the current authority structures if we are going to have a chance at fighting for change; reminding people that the original labor movement worked because people stopped giving a shit about what the rule of law said was the "appropriate way to challenge the system" and instead occupied factories and local government offices for days on end to prevent them from doing anything other than listening to demands, the teamsters continued to make deliveries yet stopped accepting payment and tore up waybills to fuck the company over without allowing them to restrict access to goods, yadda yadda, etc...
So yea... Towards the end I was kinda giving up on subtlety and skirting the rules. Got my three strikes and was booted.
Permabanned from reddit and don't feel like going through the hassle of bypassing it. I still browse every now and then for niche content that just doesn't exist on Lemmy but otherwise I'm on here exclusively.
Cool bud, keep being a puppet and punching horizontally at your fellow working class instead of realizing that they are simply scared, powerless idiots who have been duped by our common enemy.
The absolute irony you want to say I'm the one who has failed to recognize the enemy.
You know who is really ruining lives and removing employment protections? The holders of capital who actually dictate those rules of our society and control the the fundamental aspects that make our life possible. Not some dip shit country bumpkins who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and are simply just trying to meet their material needs the same as every other working class individual. The only difference between them and you is they have fallen victim to the lies. We are all capable of being victims of propaganda. You could have just as easily ended up as them if you had made the mistake of believing the wrong information, being funneled down that pipeline. So don't act high and mighty just because you became radicalized first.
You're the one who needs to wake the fuck up and start looking at the root causes of why American culture is the way it is instead of simply reacting to those who have fallen victim to the manipulation. Don't be simple and lump together the working class victims of the oligarchy and the oligarchy themselves.
Your scale is off. Religions and cults are the same thing. The only difference is how accepting society is of them. There is no third option.
Problem is they will disappear, jail, or kill any genuine organizers
Problem is they are already doing this regardless of if your an organizer or not. If the regime decides you're a target, then you're fucked. So might as well start organizing to defend against those who actively wish to do you and yours harm.
and infiltrate / sabotage any organization that actually gets to a place of effectively mobilizing a strategy like this
This is why organizations need to practice good OpSec in order to prevent infiltration.
People need to protect and organize themselves. Thats what the black panthers did and that’s precisely why they were so effective. They built up from their preexisting communities.
Yea, and part of what the Black Panthers did in their organizing was to provide armed security for protests, among a plethora of other mutual aid programs.
Those problems have existed for every single revolutionary effort to exist across history. That didn't stop them and it shouldn't stop us either.
Something some well regulated militia something something
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This is just one more reason why there needs to be an organization participating in protest spaces specifically to provide armed security, same as Black Panthers provided security for civil rights protests.
People won't be so willing to drive into a crowd of protesters if the bloc has an armed perimeter.
They don't know solidarity! We have to teach them! That's the point! They are stupid and uneducated wage slaves who have been duped by the people who are actually in control, our shared enemy. They just don't understand that we are not their enemy. Yea, there are a percentage of them who are just vitriolic, hateful, violent individuals that the community will need to defend themselves against. That's another topic. The vast majority of people, though, are just plain stupid, going through life day by day just trying to get by and not understanding, because they have been duped by a system purposely designed to prey on them.
Fucking goddamn I am tired of people misunderstanding the entire point of solidarity. I'm not saying to fucking sing kumbaya with them. Yes, they cry crocodile tears and cry the victim. Yet they blame it on the wrong person because they have been intentionally deluded into doing so. Be mad, get in their face and oppose their views. I'm not saying just sit and take it lying down. Just don't fucking attack them as a person; that isn't going to do anything except make them defensive. Oppose the ideology and educate them on how they are wrong. Expose the mistake and force them to confront it. Point your anger at the real fucking enemy.
No, it won't always work. It takes concentrated effort and repeated exposure to challenge someone's deeply held beliefs. They haven't been radicalized yet. We need to, as a political movement, have the strategy to capitalize on these moments where they have finally been confronted with a situation that exposes the flaws in what they have been told and do the leg work to radicalize these individuals. We all have that moment where we were radicalized against the system. They need theirs. They will never have it though if they are attacked for their mistakes instead of given the chance and tools needed to question and learn from them.
Yes. That is them currently, being ignorant and having their ignorance manipulated by our mutual enemy. That doesn't make them our immediate enemies. That makes them fellow working class people who are being exploited, only in a different way.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of people, due to how the human mind is predisposed to work, operate solely on their own limited anecdotal experiences to get through life. Some of us learned how to think beyond this, that our limited experience meant our intuition was fundamentally flawed and we must change our opinions based on outside information even if it goes against our base intuition. Others were manipulated from a young age to trust this instinct and to use that instinct to judge if outside information is legitimate or not so that they could readily be fed information that intentionally is written with rhetoric designed to prey on this flawed logic.
So, unfortunately, if something doesn't affect them or they aren't directly exposed to the unjust consequences of these actions in a way they cannot just easily write off, they will not change their ways. So we have to expose them to it. We have to educate them.
Until the lines of armed resistance are drawn, our efforts should not be to outright ostracize but to educate and recruit, and to break the mental conditioning that our fellow working class people have been subjected to against their will.
Of course they are. They are both prime examples of settler colonialism in action.
People forget that Israel started as a British colony