FedPosterman5000

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[–] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah I did- whataboutit? anti-italian-discrimination

Yeah I was confused by reading that it was embraced since it comes off at face as anti-proletariat. I’d never heard of Shliapnikov, but from a brief scan of his writing (Theses to the Ninth Party Congress “On the relations between the Russian Communist Party, the soviets, and production unions.”), seems more in line with what I’d expect from labor that’s done labor.

Yeah the rapid progression and capitalization on opportunity really drives home the difference of bourgeois and working class interest and the means pursued to meet those. Im interested to read more about Gramscis developing views and later rejection of nationalism wrt sardinia vs mainland. And more about the coalescing of agriculture, manufacturing and fascism (ie fiat).

Idk something about nationalism, isolationist industry, and the willingness of centrists to willingly hand over everything sounds oddly familiar 🧐

I’m almost glad I didn’t get any sort of liberal education on this in high school/college, so I can try and parse this from a more materialist lens than whatever I would’ve been taught via houghton-mifflin

Guess I’ll have to actually read more theory and see where else I can spot it in the wild 😜

[–] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah that’s making sense to me now that I’ve almost finished the introductory material lol. Just surprised me seeing the phrase within the first couple pages. I’d literally had no idea of what the political dynamics of the early century Italy (or general Europe outside of WWI); I thought Mussolini just fell out of a coconut tree

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no-fash

Damn - when you’re ignorant on history it makes a pretty good story- I had no idea Mussolini was the leader of the Turin Italian Socialist Party and editor of the party paper before he turned heel

no-fash speech-side-l-1 ”don’t talk to me until I’ve had my opportunism!” speech-side-l-2

The descriptions of the“reformist right” party in early 20th century Italy could be an exact description of the US dems.

  • “neither support nor sabotage” - contribute to war efforts, but remain ‘abstentionists’
  • ‘’left’ enough to prevent emergence of an organized Left until later
  • profoundly alienated the petit-bourgeoisie, providing the social basis for fascism
[–] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also I learned what “Taylorism” is, and I don’t think it can be overstated how much middle-managers have always sucked 🤮 https://web.stanford.edu/class/sts175/NewFiles/Taylorism

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