The email leaks are verified, try again.
M1ch431
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The source is a verified, leaked email from Clinton's campaign and an internal DNC memo, if you cared to read. Who cares about Salon. The Wikileaks releases are the only meat of election interference, which according to Julian, didn't come from Russia.
Everybody has seen those pages, and reporting on the subject - but the impact was minimal during the 2016 elections and onwards, I'd argue.
Russian operatives maintaining Facebook/Twitter accounts to organize small protests is truly insignificant and Russian-linked actors buying ads (that ultimately didn't reach many) to manipulate the election is a failure of the companies involved for accepting the money and running the ads.
so now you’re just insulting the opposition?
Where is the insult? We were quoting Biden officials, I thought it relevant to link that in response to you mentioning Biden swearing on the phone, which likely had zero impact. Biden wasn't fit for office or reelection, and the reason the Democrats lost is because he held on until the last minute, making a primary impossible. In no world would Kamala have won under the circumstances with her policies.
I'm not interested in winning arguments regarding critical subjects like this, but rather trying to get to the heart of your insistence to support a system that is blind and unwilling to represent its populace, who pay for the bombs that have killed many innocents.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/18/dnc-fundraising-donor-problems-midterms-00512473
The DNC has lost major donors.
Edit: And I did lie, not purposely, but alas. I mentioned the genocide twice or thrice prior to the election, with one instance garnering me one internet point and another losing me one. I remember doing my best to hold my tongue. I convinced no one to stay home as far as I am concerned, and even if I did somehow, that was their decision.
And aides reveal that Biden essentially wasn't running the country, but his administration sure shipped out a lot of bombs to support the war against women and children.
Regardless, I already know that you and I will likely not see eye to eye from past observance of your postings, and that's fine. You can imagine blood on my hands, and that's also fine. I did not mention the issue overseas directly ~~once~~ more than a handful of times in my postings until after the election, because I wanted to believe the Biden administration would shift after the tens of thousands of civilian deaths.
Bottom line, do you think the Democratic party should continue to be coddled, with all criticism silenced, while they have no winning strategy and even major donors have lost confidence?
My impact was nil. Did you not read my post? I get censored and buried.
If you want someone to blame, look within, and tell the Democrats to do the same.
Running a rushed campaign with no substantive policies, tirelessly lying about tirelessly working for a ceasefire, appealing to the right, not holding primaries, pushing a senile, self-proclaimed Zionist (Biden) until the last minute (who supported the genocide unquestionably) surely didn't have anything to do with the loss.
Point is, there are a lot more than 8 million untapped voters. 1/3 of the country doesn't vote. Encourage Democrats to tap into that demographic, and pressure genocidal states just a little bit. It'd go a long way.
Maybe if Democrats didn't unquestionably ship weapons to a state exterminating an occupied people, I'd shut up and fall in line. Maybe.
I appreciate your responses and perspective - I truly hope somebody finds it useful.
I would sooner run for other forms of leadership in my community, as I have lost confidence that organizing around the Democratic Party will translate to concrete change.
However, I don't wish to diminish or discourage well-intentioned action, any and all action is appreciated in my book - regardless of how I might personally view the situation.
My opinion that there is zero chance that would ever happen in my case aside - in very unimpactful positions, of course, individuals have a chance and it's fair for you to point out.
Or, hear me out, a majority of this is homegrown because rich people see the appetite for socialism and socialist policies in their populace and they are scared they will lose their royal thrones.
The answer to socialism was fascism and propaganda last century, the same playbook is being used today.
Source your claims. Right-wing think tanks, right-wing media and influencers, right-wing organizations, the DNC, Hillary's campaign, and even liberal media created Trump and allowed him to rise to power.
Trump was nobody before the media put him on blast. If there were so many "Russian bots" that enabled his rise to power, prove it - it should be easy for you.
Julian was not on anybody's side in particular, there is no evidence that Julian ever favored Putin or the government there. Go and actually listen to past recordings of the guy to get a handle on his beliefs and principles. What did Russia ever do for him?
I am admitting that some stuff happened, but that nothing truly significant occurred. Hillary won the popular vote by a wide margin. The only thing that occurred was Red Scare 2.0 with ample hysteria - tech company incompetence aside. What ensued was everybody accusing everybody of being a Russian actor, with no proof.
The push for Trump was multi-pronged, see my initial response for the meat of what created Trump.