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Trump said that Venezuela’s new leader, Delcy Rodríguez, would help the United States run Venezuela. She quickly said the opposite.

Trump said Delcy Rodríguez was sworn in as Venezuela’s interim president and would act as a partner in letting the United States run the country.

“She’s essentially willing to do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela great again,” he said.

Less than two hours later, Ms. Rodríguez — who was Nicolás Maduro’s vice president — delivered a televised address to Venezuela that made clear she viewed the United States as an illegal invader that must be rejected.

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[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Agreed. But, going forward. Don't even give the first "hand" point. It's meaningless. All it does is give a "both sides" opening for the normies to think there is debate.

This isn't 2010. The fascist don't arguing in good faith. Just state that this shit is wrong, why it's wrong, and move on.

We ARE the Nazis. There isn't a "well, you would invade if Hilter was leader" argument to be had. This is the equivalent of Hilter invading Venezuela. There are no scenarios in which "one hand" needs to be said.

I really hope people start to understand this. Because, at this point, any "hand" given to America is like giving justification for Nazi Germany.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 5 days ago

In this case rhe US are the baddies however you spin it

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

I'd argue it's closer to Russia invading Cuba, but valid.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No. Forgetting truth is what got us here. Maduro was a sham-"elected" dictator, not some gardener making tomatoes.

Words mean things, and using them dishonestly weakens the word. We are not Nazis, Trump is not Hitler, as there are not literal roving death squads literally rounding up and gunning down minorities as state policy. The US is not invading Venezuela for liebenstraum with the intent of genociding the people who live there.

The words you're looking for are "Mussolini" and "fascist Italy". Can even mention invading Ethiopia! And maybe even relish in how Mussolini met his end :)

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

Venezuela's elections were widely monitored, even independent groups from the US said they didn't find irregularities. The people saying it was stolen are the same people asking Trump to take over, and they also support Israeli genocide and asked them to help as well. Do you have a direct source for your conviction that the elections were a sham?