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The economic cost of Brexit has just been laid bare β and itβs devastating
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maybe next time dont listen to russian propaganda.
everything bad in the world ever is Russia! Russia! Russia!
The ties were pretty clear with the Brexit propaganda campaign.
As are the ties with other far right movements around the world.
Russia's more than happy to throw gas on the fire, for sure.
But they didn't start it. They're taking advantage of the failures of capitalist neoliberalism in the West for their own advantage, but - and this is crucial - the existence of those failures is not something paranoia about Russia can address.
In the US, you literally had people from the Democratic party discussing how BLM was a Russian front, because the Russians were happy to show how the US treated people. But Russia didn't put those racist cops, Russia didn't give them immunity - Russia didn't make the US have the world's largest prison population that's overwhelmingly minority.
You don't want Brexit, don't have wealth gaps and massive housing costs so people can be pushed to blame their shitty lives on Polish immigrants.
Maybe russia should stop being the bad guy. Easy as that
Look here is one of their shills now.
That's one way to put it.
Try this: "Russia is bad for this world"
Are you suggesting Russia should be destroyed?
Specifically Russian leadership. Without a doubt. Try this: "Putin is bad for Russia"
Man, sometimes I hate internet discourse, everything is hyperbole all the time and the only recognized positions are extremes.
"maybe next time dont listen to russian propaganda." - "You think [...] Brexit only exists because of Russia?"
"Russia is bad for this world" - "Are you suggesting Russia should be destroyed?"
It's so draining.
totally agree. they're bad faith actors. said my piece, but not for his benefit. now i block him.
Yeah, almost as draining as hearing idiots claim that everything is part of a huge Russian plot, so they don't have to actually change their failing strategies.
It's been 10 years now and you chuckleheads are still doing it.
And again jumping on shit nobody here said or even insinuated.
Someone just mentions that Brits should not have listened to Russian propaganda concerning Brexit and you immediately start this entire script fighting one strawman after another, somehow ending up in american politics for fucks sake.
Nobody said it was only due to propaganda, nobody even said it was mainly due to propaganda, nobody said that Russia should be destroyed.
Calm down mate, take a breather and stop fighting things you just imagine that other people are saying, because they're not.
I'm not your mate - she left a long time ago, my little chickenhawk.
You certainly won't make any, or make anyone listen to you, by name calling and declaring people idiots like this. That's not how you make people listen to you. "Hey, idiots/chuckleheads/etc!"
π You are only yelling into the void... Just a quick personality check for you, dear. It could be healthy to do one every now and then. β€οΈπ
~~This 'Iβm so tired of internet discourse' act is a classic move to shut down a conversation you're losing. Youβre conflating a critique of a toxic leadership with a call for destruction because you canβt actually defend Putinβs record. Russiaβs military is an international embarrassment and its leadership is a global parasite; those aren't 'extreme positions,' theyβre the consensus of anyone not on the Kremlin's payroll. You aren't 'drained'βyou're just out of arguments.~~
Dude, I'm not the person you were responding to and I'm on your side in this?
My bad I am not being thoughtful about this, I am responding to russian shills with AI responses I truly am putting in the minimal amount of effort. Sorry!
Oh come on!
That is the point!
having listened to enough NAFO chickenhawks talk about how Russia is "orcs" who have no respect for human life while they celebrate the deaths of conscripts from their couch, you might want to be specific about that in the future
Well I never mentioned destroying anyone so I didn't think I needed to specify what needed to be destroyed until that was brought up.
is what I was responding to
I was actually going to say more horrid shit instead of just that but I remembered I have Russian friends and didn't actually feel that way I am just angry.
Sure, and I get that.
But demonizing entire peoples is part of how warmongers get us to support this awful shit to begin with. It's one reason why my take is no war but class war, personally.
TBH, Russia is a country and does not equal Russians citizen. Saying that a country or its existence is bad, doesn't mean all people with citizenship of that county are bad. People will still be there when a country is dissolved.
OK, so you're calling for Russia to be dissolved?
IDK, I couldn't think of what kind of repercussions that would have... That would really depend on how it is dissolved and what would come after it, I suppose.
But TBH, with the right handling, organization and proper new structure, every nation should be dissolved... Cosmopolitanism would have its perks.
Or maybe a worldwide workers' state? Think we're getting there now . . .
Maybe. Als long as it isn't authoritarian, protects the weak from the strong and provides the people with the most personal positive freedom, security and safety, without infringing on the personal freedom of others, it should be fine. On the specifics we will have to work together on.
But we are leading off track. Currently I would say that the machinations of Russia, China, the U.S, Israel, and Iran are not good for the world. And in case authoritarian regimes, this can be traced back to the leaders of these countries, not the population. The fish stinks from the head. So saying this or that country is bad, doesn't mean the population should suffer.
Yes. There is a great point a Greenlander made during that recent thing it was something about "hey americans don't say sorry for trump we are judging you as a whole the same way you judge russia as a whole" and I didn't like that so I should have been more careful with my wording.
I suggest russia china india and america and canada should be decolonised and balcanised
Balkanized.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c891403eddet
lol
Lol what? You think that because Russia spread some money around Brexit only exists because of Russia?
It's like the idiots in the US that ignore 70 million people voted for Trump, and want to pretend the only reason for that is that Russia spent $100,000 on Facebook ads. Because they don't want to address the actual problems that's destroying their societies. Much easier to just claim it's all Putler or something.
no one said any of that.
-- Foundations of Geopolitics (1997) by Aleksandr Dugin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Also see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum
Do you not understand that just because something is to Russia's advantage, and Russia wants it to happen, does not mean that Russia can make it happen?
If you think Brexit was to the benefit of Russia, and you oppose Russia's government (as you should) - OK. Then why wouldn't you want to address the root causes that are powering anti-EU parties all over? Take away the fuel.
Why did Russia bother doing anything if it would've happened regardless apparently?
To aid it and make it worse?
The West pretty much showed to Russia in the 1990s and 2000s that it was going to consider international relations a zero sum game. So Russia is of course going to work to make the problems the US and UK have worse, as the US has done with Russia.
But once you worsen a problem enough, you are the primary cause.
Conspiracy nuts are harmless until their opinions become more widespread. The root cause is social media illiteracy but if you have nation states acting as fire accelerants every single sparking wire can result in an inferno.
Oh, and this didn't even start in the 90s. The Soviets didn't spread HIV conspiracy theories for fun and games.