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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 13 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

What will you use instead though?

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 29 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

At this stage, I'm thinking one of the Motorola phones that will run Graphene out of the box.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Even sidegrading to an older mid-high range phone seems like a good idea at this point. I hate android 12 and everything after it with a passion. Moto have been decent in my experience though, hopefully HMD will follow suit with Graphene

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I use graphene on a pixel. Graphene is Android, albeit a much better version of Android.

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

I don't care whether it's technically android or not, I care that it's not a tool to let google in to my life.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] riptide@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

I believe it’s a fork of android that is not managed by Google

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's an Android fork that has been degoogled

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 41 minutes ago

yes but also no.

google influenced, but not google controlled anymore.

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Is that meant to be a "gotcha" or something?

My point is, this is the last time I let google control my phone.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

Legally? Maybe not.

But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product.

So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe.

Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.

Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end.

[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm hoping it's smaller than any of their current offerings. I really want to support a "factory" GrapheneOS phone, but can't stand the size of current generation phones.

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

I want the opposite! I currently use a fold phone because phones are too small :P

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Linux phone, landline, or tin can and string.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Another option, an ESP32 radio. Surprisingly large mesh network in the greater Seattle area.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, but you guys don't have any ghosts in your city! So.....Who ya gonna call???

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fairphone with /e/os or Jolla phone with sailfishos (waiting for the reviews of their new preordered flagship phone coming out this fall.)

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Well, that runs into a different problem with the same results.

Sure, GOOGLE can't hinder you from installing apps, but the fact that nobody has heard of these OS's before means your selection of available apps is what hinders your ability to install apps.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

/e/os is Android without Google proprietary stuff. It runs most Android apps.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 0 points 57 minutes ago

"Nobody has Heard of these os'" - wtf you talk about? They are gaining popularity here in EU as well as in Turkey. It's getting popular to de-google/de-americanize. People are hating on the monopoly iOS and Android has on the industry. Better to do something than being a sheep about it, and just let thos mofos suck the data out of your life forever?

[–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

That exact issue killed Blackberry, the largest smartphone maker at the time. Even after they built a compatibility layer to run Android apps.

You think anywhere near enough people are going to go out of their way to try something that doesn't have marketshare already to maintain an entire alternative hardware and software ecosystem? Where can I get wherever awesome shit you're smoking?