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With all the dismal news about America lately, my home, I'm starting to seriously look at where else to move.

Putting aside for now the difficulty of actually immigrating to some countries, I'm curious on the opinions of others (especially people living outside the U.S) on this.

What I'm looking for in a country is, I imagine, similar to many people. I'm trying to find somewhere that will exhibit:

  • Low racism
  • Low sexism
  • Low LGBTQ-phobia
  • Strong laws around food quality and safety
  • Strong laws about environmental protection
  • Strong laws against unethical corporate practices (monopoly, corruption, lobbying, etc)
  • Strong laws for privacy
  • Good treatment of mentally ill, homeless, and impoverished people

Those are the real important things. Of course the nice-to-haves are almost too obvious to be worth listing, low cost of living, strong art and cultural scene, nice environment, and so on.

My actual constraints that might really matter are that I only speak English (and maybe like A1-2 level German). It seems incredibly intimidating to try to find employment somewhere when I can hardly speak the language.

I know nowhere on Earth is perfect, just curious what people may have to suggest. I hope this question isn't too selfish to ask here.

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I suggest developing a plan that is not just about building a better lifenfor yourself, but for others and community. For example, China ticks all of your boxes (yes, even privacy in comparison to the US), but it is also important to consider how you would personally make China better in the process, as you are, by moving, saying that your current conditions are pushing you to want to leave. So what about your current place of living was driven to that and how can this be made the case the world over?

Ultimately, capitalism is the underlying force of reaction, conservatism, and deprivation. It sets the guard rails of social policy, funds and purges the thought-moving forces of society. It creates homelessness. It destroys countries and societies, forcing them to adopy defensive and antagonistic positions to be viable and not only dominated. So I would recommend also thinking of this question in terms of how you might build your life as well as do well in fighting capitalism. As, ultimately, if this force is not recognized, you might find a place that ticka your boxes but is ultimately a forcr for capitalist expansion, e.g. most OECD countries. This wouldn't make you a bad person but it is a major wrinkle in the idea of building a good life by finding a place based on these (all very reasonable) boxes to tick off.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

China is very much not low racism. You will encounter quite a lot of racism especially if you are black. Everyone is different but the racists are far more public about being racist.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you are white you get stares and reverse racism until you mess up then real racism. If you’re black you just get racism.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That it, generally speaking, false.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well you obviously haven’t been to or lived in China for any period of time and most likely have an idealistic view of the country. Chinas a great place but being ignorant to its rampant racism is just silly. Because you’re certainly wrong. Waste of time comment.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Well you obviously haven’t been to or lived in China for any period of time and most likely have an idealistic view of the countr

Please do yourself a favor and depend a bit less on making things up about other people.

Chinas a great place but being ignorant to its rampant racism is just silly.

I am not ignorant of racism in China, I have already described what form it comes in. You have a chauvinistic view based on a lack of understanding and investigation.

Because you’re certainly wrong. Waste of time comment.

I am correct, actually. But you are behaving quite childishly, letting anyone still reading clock the insecurity.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China is low racism, particularly compared to other options. The racism experienced by black people in China is more that of unfamiliarity than bigotry. It does not come from the same place as white supremacy and does not have the same meaning or function.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah because Han superiority complex doesn’t exist right?

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

That's correct, it is effectively nonexistent. You're projecting the pattern of white supremacy onto a culture you know nothing about.

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