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If you could push a button that gives you a hundred thousand dollars but a random person dies, would you do it? 

[yellow, cautious]
Interesting thought experiment… intuitively, I'd say no, but it's worth thinking about… it's a genuine moral dilemma in a capitalist world: there's a dialectic between our desires and the common good…

MEANWHILE, BILLIONAIRES

[an orange guy in a suit is shown with a terrifying grin pushing as many buttons as possible at once on a table, slamming one of the buttons, and even using their foot to press an extra one]

https://thebad.website/comic/the_totally_hypothetical_button_thought_experiment

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

More interesting (and more realistic) if it isn't a guarantee that someone dies if you push the button, but a probability.

Would you push the button if it was a 20% chance someone dies? A 5% chance? A 1% chance? 0.1%? Is there a number where it's ok to push the button? If it was a 0.0001% chance, how many times would you push the button?

Also, does it change things if you know that your button push resulted in someone's death? Is it different if it's someone standing right there? Maybe on the other side of a one-way mirror? What if it's just that you get a green light or a red light after you push the button and you don't have to see someone die or know who died or how they died?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well, driving to work is basically that. Non zero chance someone dies.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah. Non-zero chance your car's emissions kill someone too.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

same could be said about taking a steamy shit on the toilet. 8-10% of all cardiac emergencies happen in the bathroom.

sometimes you get the stinky fudge dragon, other times the stinky fudge dragon gets you.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Though the chance someone other than you dies from you taking a shit is pretty far fetched, and I'm not liking having to try to conceive of how that happens.

But a lot of activities are this way. Getting on a ladder in public could kill someone, just breathing around other people could kill someone, etc etc.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd say at sub-0.1% chances of killing someone, I'd press with impunity. At those low probabilities, they've basically just got hit by lightning at the same time I've pressed a random button.

Granted I'd probably only do it whenever the 100K ran out, so once every couple years. Unless my investments die.

[–] sfgifz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Also factor in when they die. Maybe your action results in a demise after a period of time. Lung Cancer won't kill someone right after they puff a cigarette, so the cigarette baron may not consider it his fault in the sort term.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah, that would be an interesting twist. 100% chance that pushing the button kills someone, but it might happen in 2 years or it might happen in 30 years. But, even if someone lives a perfectly normal life for 30 years, their cause of death will be this button.

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It isn't the "cigarette baron's" fault any more than the beer baron's fault or the parachute maker's fault. Some people are going to die if they choose to indulge in mildly risky behavior. If the scenario is something like this, everyone here will be pushing that button. Don't say you won't because you will.

[–] angband@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The problem with statistics is that 20% of people in a large population absolutely will die. At least in the context of this meme, the statistics used are gathered from real world data - deaths from cancer, lack of treatment, poor working conditions.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

100% of people in a large population absolutely will die. I don't know why you think some people are immortal. I also don't know what that has to do with this meme.