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[–] claralistensprechen5th@friendica.rogueproject.org -3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

@ECEC
Any city manager could tell you everything wrong with having trees downtown.
* Birds get into them and when they're nesting, they attack anybody walking by
*Birds also shit on the cars parked under them, and most drivers look for shade to park under
*Bugs get into them and attract birds when birds aren't nesting
*Trees drop sap, which also ruins a car's finish
*city workers have to spend time on the clock keeping the leaves picked up off the ground

Yeah, the drawback is that the algae don't provide shade.

[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] claralistensprechen5th@friendica.rogueproject.org -4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

@Andres4NY @ECEC
Cars and trees in the inner city are a combination of problems.
I did leave one tree problem out: they grow.
When their roots are surrounded and covered by concrete, the concrete buckles. So do the streets. Unfortunately, city streets are specifically for cars.

[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

@claralistensprechen5th @ECEC *sigh*

City streets are _not_ specifically for cars. Freeways aren't even specifically for cars (buses, trucks), but city streets in particular are definitely not just for cars.

Tree roots are a solved problem. Lots of city master plans and similar documents have a list of trees allowed in the public right-of-way that have root systems compatible with sidewalks and roads. Some trees have roots that buckle concrete, others have roots that don't. Choose wisely.

[–] rejinl@masto.nyc 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

@Andres4NY @claralistensprechen5th @ECEC Trees were here first. Streets (pavement) are an attempt to tame the world. The arrogance of thinking we (humans) can & should assert our will over the world is the problem; street trees are a solution.

[–] claralistensprechen5th@friendica.rogueproject.org 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

@rejinl @Andres4NY @ECEC
...except they are not. What you're in favor of is no cities. Not gonna happen.

[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

@claralistensprechen5th @rejinl @ECEC She said 'street trees', which are have shown clear benefits to dense cities all over the world. They're incompatible with on-street parking, though.

@Andres4NY @rejinl @ECEC
I was simply answering the "stupid question" part, so there's that.

[–] rejinl@masto.nyc 1 points 3 hours ago

@claralistensprechen5th @Andres4NY @ECEC You're saying pro street trees = anti cities? Lol, ok.