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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like you don't understand what a livable wage actually means.

Or that you're a manager yourself and never had to live off an unlivable wage.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Sounds like you have never worked for tips.

Its really fucking weird getting down voted and then insulted when chances are you have never had this conversation or worked with people in this industry.

Many restaurants have tried this. The staff do not want it: it always pays much less, and keeps them from being able to pull better nights than others.

Yes outside of america it works, but once you get a taste of that income with tipping, you dont want less.

I'll even back this up:

“The survey data is crystal clear: Tipped employees overwhelmingly prefer the current tip credit payment system, and they don’t want it to change,” Corder said in a statement provided to Restaurant Business. “It’s rare to find an issue that commands such widespread support across diverse age, race, gender and geographic groups.”

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 hour ago

I have, in fact, worked for tips so don't assume shit about me. I have also worked for minimum wage, with no avenue for tips.

As someone who lives in a country with worker's rights, I will admit even when I was working for tips, the place I worked was legally required to pay minimum wage. (they just get around that by making it so they don't have to give you the hours, fuck zero hour contracts)

Even then, there were people who weren't making enough to do anything but rent a room somewhere and MAYBE go out for a drink at their local once a week.

It's definitely more accurate to say people prefer having contracted hours, and a wage they can live off, than the threat of starvation and homelessness if they don't smile hard enough to make some geriatric fart take pity and throw them some spare change.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The survey data is crystal clear: Tipped employees overwhelmingly prefer the current tip credit payment system, and they don’t want it to change,” Corder said in a statement provided to Restaurant Business. “It’s rare to find an issue that commands such widespread support across diverse age, race, gender and geographic groups.”

"The survey was conducted by CorCom, Inc. of nearly 4,000 tipped employees in states facing tip credit elimination threats this year."

Ah yes, a study of 4000 people about to lose their tips would certainly prefer getting tips

Thanks for providing sources for your quotes Or were you embarrassed to say your source was " https://minimumwage.com/2024/07/survey-tipped-employees-nationwide-prefer-keeping-the-tip-credit/ "