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Google seems bound and determined to destroy itself trying to escalate it's profits from "staggering" to "colossal." The search is so bad AI is actually better, and that's saying something. And now they want to enshittify YouTube? Okay. I'm sure it won't die right away, but this will be one of the thousands cuts.
laughs in uBlock Origin
Laughs in FreeTube.
... Revanced
SmartTube
....yt-dlp
I just pay for premium. Worth every penny with the amount of YouTube we watch.
If you pay premium, then you have to be logged in and tracked and spied on, even more data get sold. You pay them to sell your data!
Ya @cattywampas@lemm.ee let’s send them complaints on this
They gotta give us a way to watch adfree without spying on us
Plus the first-party app is atrocious. The third party ones are way better.
Thank you for giving Google money.
With your endearing support, Google is paying less attention to us so we can continue getting the same content for free.
No problem, I like supporting all the neat content creators I follow while others are happy to rip them off because they feel entitled to free content.
And don't give me the "support them on patreon" line because a) I already do and b) ain't no way the majority of you who pirate YouTube are donating money to everyone you follow.
"pirate YouTube" lmfao
bet you're one of those people that pirate oxygen
I donate to the top percentile of those I follow, at least.
RedLetterMedia ain't getting ad revenue. They curse too much and Mike is an alcoholic.
but to put it plainly, I'm morally bankrupt on victimless crime and I know they're taken care of.
again, thank you.
You're right, of course, however as consumers we're put into the position of having to support an absolutely atrocious corporate surveillance company AND creators, or neither. Creators are entangling themselves that way. Given the option, I will choose the latter every time. When creators want to make their content available on other platforms, I do support them there.
Money paid to Google also goes to supporting Project Nimbus, which is why Google is on the BDS list.
I'm with you, paying is better than supporting the Ad business.
I just wish YouTube did not treat paying customers like criminals with the app based restrictions.
minor krill issue
Yep - I legit haven't seen an ad on YT in years. I also, just the other day, ran across another filter that disables the stupid shorts since I don't care for that format or YT pushing it on me all the time. Almost usable platform now.
laughs in invidious. google doesn't even get to know I'm watching anything
No, I want them to know. Tell Cersei I did it.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t YouTube still running year over year at a loss?
Last I checked Alphabet had something like $60 billion in profit.
At this point, they probably consider YouTube to be a loss leader while they siphon up everyone's data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#Finances
I don't think so.
Revenue is not profit.
Yes, I know, but I doubt 8.6 billions per quarter aren't enough to make a profit.
They haven’t stated their operating costs, so you’re only speculating.
Operating costs are not known with that granularity, to my knowledge, but it's a good guess. Best anybody can tell Youtube is 10-ish percent of all of Alphabet's ad revenue and they have a subscription model as well. Not to mention the data gathering for AI training, plus all the intangible benefits from owning all the video on the Internet, from using Youtube tech for Google Drive stored videos to... you know, owning all the video on the Internet. And all of that without investing the ungodly amount of money Netflix and the other streaming competitors do on content. People just... upload that crap.
However their internal accounting breaks down, I'm pretty sure nobody thinks Youtube is bleeding money.
YouTube was almost bankrupted because the cost of storage, servers and bandwidth greatly overran the ad revenue. Every idiot with 2 subscribers uploading dozens of hours of content cost them a ton of money. It is easy to underestimate how expensive video streaming infrastructure is.
Oh, it's extraordinarily expensive, and what people really underestimate is how HUGE Google's storage requirements actually are.
Thing is, it's also a ton of money. Youtube isn't just ad-driven video streaming, it's also a Spotify competitor, a Twitch competitor, a video subscription service (and for some reason they still have a movie and show rental thing in there). 10% of all of Alphabet's money is a LOT of money, and this isn't the only business of theirs that demands insane storage requirements.
I'm sure they'll tighten requirements eventually, and they've already done a ton of throttling, but they, again, own Internet video.
Let me put it this way, I think if Google decided to offer Youtube to either of us for a dollar on the condition we can't resell it to anybody and we have to keep running it forever we'd both still take it.
its also why they allow more right wing content on the site too, conservatives love outrage and youtube provides now
I'm not sure about that. what would I do? manipulate elections? manipulate public opinion? I'm not an advertising company to be able to do that
If you give me all of YouTube and that includes everyone maintaining it, all the data collection processes from it, and the infrastructure to keep it running. Hell yeah I'll take it, the data collection alone on users is an information gold mine and companies all over would be salivating to get a piece of that. I can pretty much guarantee that if given the threat of losing the data of everyone in the worlds video watching habits vs paying more to upkeep it, companies will start paying more.
In all actuality, I'd still do it and toss out the data collection. I don't see anywhere in this mental exercise that I have to keep it running well. Y'all (well, about 5 of y'all at a time) are watching 36p videos from here on out.
36 pixel in height is not much
Yes, if you re-read my previous comment I said I don't think they are losing money.
Facebook has spent something like 70 billion dollars on the "metaverse" with nothing to show for it, so it's very possible.
I mean it must be? The only income it has is based on ads from Google.
I guess that's what happens when you hire the top minds from yahoo