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The most common argument against electric cars is that once you factor in battery manufacturing and lithium mining, they aren't actually cleaner. MIT tested that directly, and the answer is no longer ambiguous.
Researchers Marco Miotti and Jessika Trancik built a lifecycle model covering thousands of US zip codes, drilling down to individual driver behavior rather than comparing broad regions. They accounted for battery and vehicle manufacturing, fuel extraction and refining, regional electricity mix, local meteorological data, traffic density, trip length and duration, acceleration patterns, gas and electricity prices, and state fees. The study appears in Environmental Research Letters.
The concession first: building a battery is dirtier than building a comparable gas car, and an EV starts life with a larger manufacturing footprint. MIT states that plainly rather than working around it.
The findings: in most US locations, a battery electric vehicle reduces lifetime greenhouse gas emissions by 40 to 60 percent compared to a similar gas vehicle, with larger reductions in urban areas. On cold weather, MIT found that in a climate like North Dakota, efficiency can drop as much as 50 percent on a particularly frigid night, but the effect on annual emissions benefits is minimal. Miotti's own conclusion was that even in the most unfavorable conditions, EVs still reduce emissions substantially.
On cost, EVs are competitive with comparable combustion vehicles in lifetime ownership cost across most of the country, even without clean vehicle tax credits. Where electricity is relatively affordable, battery electrics tend to cost less outright. The study also found that individual driving behavior matters roughly as much as regional electricity mix, with the biggest reductions going to people who drive more, drive larger vehicles, and spend more time in traffic.
MIT also updated their public tool at carboncounter.com, where you can compare lifecycle emissions and ownership costs for nearly any car on the market.
None of this means you have to like electric cars. Dislike the steering feel. Dislike the brake feel. Want a manual. Those are real objections. The emissions one is finished.
Car news the way Doug DeMuro, Jason Cammisa and Chris Harris cover cars, every day
No! If you want an electric motorcycle, then get one and drive on the regular vehicle roads. The limits on ebikes keep them as bikes. I live in a very hilly town and a basic ebike means I can keep on biking now that a regular mountain bike is getting to be too much work. If defacto motorcycles are using the bike lanes and paths, we might as well allow cars and dump trucks on them as well.
If I can cycle faster than the legal ebike limit, isn't it a bit low? I overtake legal ones on my way to work, illegal ones zoom past.
Just want a slightly higher limit. Like leave the motor power limit but drop the speed one?
No. Lower it. Classify fast ones as motorbikes and ban them from looking like bikes.
My friend in his 30s got run over whilst jogging by an ebike on a shared pedestrian/cycle path and hasn't been back to work yet. His face had to be reconstructed and his leg and both hips are a mess.
If that was a road legal ebike, a regular bike would have done the same amount of damage given that I am going at a similar or faster speed than legal ebikes already. Then you have road bikes going even faster than I do.
Then you have sprint speeds which are even higher. For a short distance I can push close to double the ebike speed limit on a smooth path. There is a mile or so coastal path here that works really well for getting up speed. Downhill obviously allows even more speed.
I wasn't there and didn't see it, but I can't imagine it was a legal bike, my point is that the fast ones need to look less like bikes so that the police can identify bikes that shouldn't be on cycle paths easily.
I imagine that you as a keen cyclist have experience and road sense and pay attention to other road or cycle path users in a way that someone who has a lot of experience on the road has to do if they're not going to end up in a crash. You don't become a fast (pedal) cyclist without a bit of experience.
Police could just see how fast they are going and test the bike if it was going too fast.
Although they need to learn how to test it. Have heard a few expensive legal bikes being destroyed by the police because they keep using tests that will always produce a fail result. They just take the bike off ground and spin the pedals and if the wheel rotates over 15mph it fails. My bike isn't even an ebike and would fail that test. Its not does the wheel spin, its does the motor provide power.
If that's the case, maybe you are going too fast also?
There isn't a maximum speed a bike is allowed to go and I would be within the speed limit for the road I am on. So no, I am not going too fast.
Now if I was to go full speed on a crowded shared path, sure, that would be riding dangerously and is illegal.
Perhaps there should be a speed limit and all bike paths.
How would someone on a bike know their speed in the first place? Pretty sure that is a large part of why speed limits don't directly apply to bikes
They make speedometers you know. Even amazon sells them by the pound every day all day.
Fair enough, bikes don't come with them though and as it stands there is no reason for me to get one.
You would fare much worse off if the bus hits you at 60 than if I hit you at 30 anyway.