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This is factually untrue, at least in this case. If Donald had done what presidents always do, we'd still be in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In his first term he pulled the US military out of Syria and negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan. His record was consistent with the position he took in his campaign not to start forever wars.
The American people had good reason to believe we wouldn't be involved in another forever war and were also lied to.
And this is coming from someone who hates him as much as you do.
Everything he did somehow benefited Russia. He pulled from Syria right after US displaced mercenaries called Wagner. Russia took US positions.
He pulled from Afghanistan, freed captured Taliban soldiers and turned Afghanistan to Taliban. Taliban has friendly relationship with Russia and regularly visits Moscow.
He withdrew from Iraq, Iraq is helping Iran.
He started war with Iran just when the price of oil was so low that Russia was selling oil at a loss, then immediately removed sanctions on them (which doesn't increase supply, only allows Russia to sell at higher price)
Or was done to spite Democrats.
All of the good byproducts of Donald's presidency have been unintended. I fully agree. (And just making it clear, that's not sarcasm.)
Ignore all evidence and believe the lies repeated on fox news entertainment 24/7
Respectfully, you're the one ignoring the evidence here. It's a matter of historical record that, in Donald's first term, he got the US out of forever wars. So at least on the issue of war, it made sense for people to expect him to do the same in this term, because the pledge was consistent with his historical political actions.
That's false. At the end of the day it was Biden who is recorded in history as having withdrawn from Afghanistan though it is fair to say Trump wanted to make that happen and did some things to work towards it. It was also pretty clear that his support for Israel was more unquestioning and he actually contributed significantly to the destabilization of the middle east during his first term. He was also already doing some of what he's really been doing in a much bigger way to NATO and allies back then, another obvious destabilizing thing that may well lead to further conflict.
The least understandable mistakes people who bought that he'd be some kind of a force for peace did were to think his extremely divisive attitude could not extend to war and thinking he could be trusted on anything he says.
Yes. He had to adhere to the agreement negotiated by the prior administration. He still did everything in his power to fuck it up because he wanted the US military to remain there and keep filling the pockets of his Virginia war profiteering golf buddies.
Yes. Like every US president.
Nothing you're saying adequately contradicts my reply, nor does it support the original replier's thesis. The American people had reason to believe that Donald wouldn't start another forever war because his record was that of a president disentangling us from them. You can blame Donald voters for a lot of things, but you can't blame them for Iran, unless you're comfortable making yourself look stupid.
I made a different claim that you have not replied to, no doubt because you know you'd lose on the facts.
They absolutely did not and your reply that doesn't even try to address my arguments certainly does not convince anyone of it.
There's in fact a lot of reasons you could see Iran coming already from Donnie's earlier policy choices. You won't necessarily figure it out by just watching Fox News like it sounds you've been mostly doing though.
You're right, of course. Anyone who was a functioning adult for Trump's first term should remember that he almost started this BS with Iran then, when he proudly assassinated General Sulemani.
Thank you for the discussion. I hope you have a nice Sunday.