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"Wayland is an ideological manifesto disguised as a modernization and it can go right to hell."
We are waiting for you take over the X11 project.
I can keep waiting. Nobody has to take over a feature-complete mature project until something needs to change.
Meanwhile I'll be waiting 40 more years before anybody fixes any of the broken functionality X11 already has that I need and Wayland devs REFUSE to implement. They're free to not implement whatever they want, but when they tell me this butterknife is a replacement for my swiss army knife and we can stop making swiss army knives, they can go f**k themselves. It is not a drop-in replacement, and until it is, it's a new product that doesn't do what I need. The end. Period. End of argument.
X11 is feature complete? 🤣🤣🤣 wew lad.
Yep, let's stop this here. My sides, I swear.
Let me put it this way...
I care exactly as much about the feature set you need as you care about the ones I need.
But yes, let's stop here before we start talking about PRODUCTIVITY features rather than "My triple monitor setup doesn't maximize all of my 4k resolution support and it throws off the vibes of my RGB fans" features.
I'm not the person you replied to, I'm looking forward to www.arcan-fe.com reaching 1.0, and it's capable of replacing X11.
It's not exactly the same thing as X11 or Wayland, but Bjorn Stahl has clearly put a lot of thought into it's design and Arcan is something I actually want, which is more than I can say of Wayland. Wayland destroyed WMs and is worse in several ways, and the technical discussions around Wayland basically don't exist. Usually it's just "X11 bad therefore Wayland good", or "if you don't like Wayland than go fork X", or "Wayland is the most used therefore is best" (which is a really stupid argument from people who aren't using Microsoft Windows).