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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What if I was 0% likely to vote for either of them?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you're a "both sides equally bad" type without more moral objections to one side over the other, you're in the clear!

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What if you won't support a party that did and does genocide?

[–] korazail@eviltoast.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think my point still stands. Think both sides are wrong? Pick a side and help fix it; just get involved in your local politics as well as the national ones.

I think the number of overall real human people who are for real human rights is vaaaaastly higher than the number of ghouls out there trying to take power by force. Get involved.

I've been to several No-Kings protests (example, among others) and the number of Palestinian flags and the love those people get is undeniable. I don't know anyone who is in support of genocide. I think there's a very vocal minority of "people" - but probably a lot of money - that influence where policy goes. We can oust a zionist and/or corrupt politician before they become the front-runner by being in the gears. I think we do that by getting involved

It might not be fast, but it'll be faster than giving up. Get involved.


In the shorter term, do you think that - of the options we have at this moment - there is a worse choice?

How about you vote against them while getting involved.

I think you cowards should take up arms and "water the tree of liberty" or whatever goofy shit you guys believe in.

There's no fixing the country founded on slavery genocide and war.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Then perfect is the enemy of better and the side of the greater evil ends up winning.

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's time to stop the country that won't stop doing evil, lol.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would be great! Better vote in the party that has even a few members who would support that rather than the one that has absolutely none. Have to start somewhere.

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So you agree that your country is evil and should be stopped. Then trump causing the collapse of the country is good for the rest of the planet, right?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, because it will drag the rest of the world down with it. There are better ways to make its government at least less evil to start. Or, barring that, the rest of the world needs to further unhook its reliance on it so a collapse would have minimal impact on everyone else.

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fair, I'm just hoping the rest of the world gets its shit together sooner rather than later and sanctions the country out of existence!

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

While a redemption would be best, turning it into a pariah is second best if it can't ever get its shit together. No matter what, though, its old role as the "world's policeman" is over.

Which is good, hopefully burgeoning socialist projects can actually stand a chance without being couped by the CIA and a fascist dictator friendly to imperial extraction installed now 🀞

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's funny how all you .mlers tacitly support Trump, or at the very least align your beliefs with his claims.

Would Kamala have gotten us into a war with Iran, .mler? Wrong answers only.

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trump should have been executed after he tried to coup the government. Yes, Kamala campaigned with Liz Cheny on having the most lethal military in the world, there is a good chance she would have bombed Iran. At the very least she was going to continue to arm Israel to continue the job Biden accelerated.

Are you advocating voting for a party guilty of genocide, lib?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh hey would you look at that, Stephen Miller claimed Kamala would have invaded Iran too.

You guys fucking love Trump, just admit it

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You guys don't mind genocide, as long as it's a democrat doing it, just admit it

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not a denial, +1 for me -1 for .mlers

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I literally said he should have been executed, lmfao.

Sounds a little delusional, friend. And I don't speak for an entire instance, as I'm sure most people on yours are thankful you don't speak for all of them!

Edit: also, not a denial, this guy is literally pro genocide according to his own logic, lmao.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yet your messaging aligns directly with the fascists! Interesting how that works.

Also no, I'm not pro genocide. I just understand that petulantly shitting myself when the world doesn't immediately bend to my whim is an ineffective strategy. Something you've yet to figure out, which is why what you say and what Stephen Miller says aligns.

Just admit that you love the Trump presidency

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just understand that petulantly shitting myself when the world doesn’t immediately bend to my whim is an ineffective strategy.

Lmfao, I bet you took kamalas loss real well, champ. I also bet you behaved like a totally normal person and blamed the establishment for not doing their job and earning votes, and not the voters who wouldn't support genocide, afterwards.

The irony of this statement is palpable. I'm just gonna let it sit here.

If you think me saying trump should have been executed is endorsing him or his positions, I don't know what to tell ya.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Lmfao, I bet you took kamalas loss real well, champ.

Well, my words never mirror Stephen Miller's so I think I did pretty well. What about you?

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure you've said similar sentences to him before, and when it's something as obvious as "will an American president go to war", I think most people would agree with me and old nosferatool.

Doesn't bother me, I don't live in your shit hole, and American foreign policy is generally bipartisan.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh we're going with 'I'm rubber, you're glue'?

Got it, so you have no answer as to why you align with Stephen Miller. Just admit you love Trump, it's easier for everyone that waymn

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 days ago

Why don't you tell me why you don't believe a woman when she speaks. Do you think kamala was lying when she said she'd have the most lethal military on the planet?