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Andy Yen's values are incompatible with Proton's mission. He advocates for poor security practices, supports fascists, and he verbally abuses his subordinates. As such, I can no longer in good conscience continue to financially support a company with such terrible leadership.

Unfortunately for me, my subscription just renewed last month on a multi year plan, but it does give me time to browse for and experiment with alternatives.

If you're able, I encourage you to do the same and cite Andy Yen as the driving factor for your decision. We can't let these tech bro fascists destroy what little semblance of privacy we have left.

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[–] greasewizard@piefed.social 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

i finally deleted my ~20 year google account last week, finally migrating every single account that used that old email over to proton. and now, this

[–] warm@kbin.earth 35 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

It's still astronomically better than Google. People seem to be forgetting this.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 25 points 21 hours ago

True for now. But it seems headed down a path where it will be competing with Google in shittiness some time in the not so far off future (and I use Proton as well).

[–] IDew@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago

This. The Proton suite is very convenient in my use case, I wouldn't like to switch to all saperate services

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

It's not better.

It's fine, at best, and free alternatives are fine too.

The only thing Proton has is their integrity and focus on privacy... Or was supposed to, anyway.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It is. The direction they are going is shit, but only in isolation, if you compare it to Google, they still look like angels. Perhaps you dont understand what Google is doing.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 6 points 19 hours ago

No, you're the one that refuses to see where Proton is heading with a CEO like that.

The only reason I'm paying for Proton is their supposed values, but clearly under his leadership they're completely opposite to what they claim publicly.

If Proton is going to use my money to push out slop, I might as well use any other email provider that at least won't lie to my face about it.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

FUUUUCCCK. SAME.

And a custom domain so there was no automatic transferring. Had to do the obnoxious mbox import rigamarole for two accounts (mine and my tech-illiterate dad) and talk two friends through the same.

Whatever. I'm sticking with it for a couple years, I don't have it in me to do it again.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

You’re good—it’s still one of the best options out there right now. Even if it gets shittier, unfortunately, it’s still a way better option than almost any others out there. Which is depressing. But don’t beat yourself up for staying.

[–] aSaabD00d@lemmy.today 3 points 23 hours ago

I have yet to delete my gmail account but I soon will make a new one to run on my phone until I can get a new phone with grapheneos or some other OS that uses microg instead. I feel you on that 20 year account thing though. I think I made mine about 20 years ago as well. It was my very first "grown up" email after my silly kid named ones like Skaterpunkxxxxx@aol and such.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 20 hours ago

I deleted mine several years ago but my employer just added Google dependencies to their app so I can't install through Aurora anymore and have to go and buy a new phone and a SIM card, and make a new Google account...