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Andy Yen's values are incompatible with Proton's mission. He advocates for poor security practices, supports fascists, and he verbally abuses his subordinates. As such, I can no longer in good conscience continue to financially support a company with such terrible leadership.

Unfortunately for me, my subscription just renewed last month on a multi year plan, but it does give me time to browse for and experiment with alternatives.

If you're able, I encourage you to do the same and cite Andy Yen as the driving factor for your decision. We can't let these tech bro fascists destroy what little semblance of privacy we have left.

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[–] tramdan@piefed.social 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I did exactly that a few days ago when I read about the AI interviews. Using Tuta now.

[–] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tuta seems good, but it just don't work in my language at all. Sounds like really, really stupid and it's already hard to explain that proton-me is a real email.. ("Tuta" or "saada tuta" would be like "you gonna get beat up")

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, which language?

[–] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Finnish! Also there is option for keemail-com when setting up Tuta, but that would be even worse as that's the same as how we pronounce gmail..

  • My email is lantsu-at-keemail-dot-com
  • Uhhuh, so lantsu-at-geemail-dot-com
  • No uh.. keemail.. with like koo and ee ee
  • Gee and ee ee?
  • Koo and ee ee! Or I can just write it myself?

...

  • Oh, what kind of email is that? Why don't you have a real email? Is that even a real email? Why? Gmail is good?
[–] blind3rdeye@aussie.zone 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've heard before that Tuta is a problem in Finnish. (I wouldn't know.) So that sucks.

I don't think the keemail thing would be such a problem though. Maybe it's different for you, but I'm never asked to speak my email address. It is always written (usually typed). So mishearing it is a complete non-issue. Also, it's keemail.me, not keemail.com. Not sure if that's better or worse... but from my point of view, it doesn't make much difference. It's just an address; like a street name or something. And for me, no one else is ever typing in my email address. So there won't be any confusion about that.

[–] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

I have to pronounce my email outloud everytime I visit goverment offices or doctors, or when in job interviews and such, and sadly I gotta play along with them pretty often, monthly if not more often, so no, not very interested in explaining same things to them every single time. But I still kinda feel the keemail-me, might make the transfer if I can workout other Proton services I use.

[–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How's the Android app for it?

[–] tramdan@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

Good. Not as many features but I'm happy with it. You can make a free account to try it out.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

How is tuta getting money? I don't see pricing info.

The "free forever" model is troubling.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pricing is available right on the pricing page: https://tuta.com/pricing

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thank you.

When I searched the first result is just a login/signup page with no links to anything but their privacy policy and apps.

[–] JonEFive@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

The free tier is somewhat limited. Many users choose to pay. So with enough people paying, it really doesn't cost them anything to give away small mailboxes for free to those who need it.

[–] dudesss@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You cannot use the search feature for messages older than a few months or so. You need to scroll through the messages.

[–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh, that's not good.