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Where do you think the authoritarian, anti-intellectual, isolationist, puritanical Christian nationalism found in the U.S. historically began?
Where are concentration camps happening already?
Where is a popular fascist already in power?
Fucking Americans playing whataboutism when they’re a mile down the road already.
It's not "whataboutism". It's about understanding historical context and threads that tie history and geopolitics across time and oceans.
Yes, I'm an American and it's bad back home. Arguably worse than ever before. And the American flavor of conservative techno-feudalism certainly has its own unique stench. We have much to fight, and we suck at it (currently).
However, I live in the Netherlands currently, since July of 2022, and not exactly by choice. My (Dutch) then-fiance-now-wife got an incurable diagnosis during the pandemic, preventing her from moving to the U.S. But before, I've been all over Europe. I've read plenty of "Western Civilization" history textbooks in high school and university as well. I see all of the right-wing conservative macho bullshit here in supposedly "liberal Northwest Europe" that I see emanating from MAGA pussies back home. In the Netherlands, that would be the BBB and the PVV.
The mentality I'm referring to is from here. In Europe. EVERYthing in modern US conservative talking points can trace its roots right back to puritanical European ~~Christian white supremacist monarchism/fascism/authoritarianism,~~ "WE'RE-IN-CHARGE-FOREVER-BECAUSE-WE'RE-'CIVILIZED'"-ism.
"God, Gold, and Glory" was a thing long before U.S was. The American flavor of it has its roots here, so, please, as an American not of European descent, cut the fucking bullshit. Don't throw stones from your supposedly manicured glass houses. Or, if I'm wrong, invite some Roma people or economic migrants from
<insertFormerColonialTerritoryHere>into your home, with all of that holier-than-thou "love" in your heart.Thank you for your posts in this thread. Your work correcting these people is not unnoticed. They've got 300-year-old raw sewage in their basement, see their neighbour's house has a black mold problem, and then when they find specks of mold in their kitchen, they scream that the neighbours have brought the plague. If they fail to clean their kitchen for one week, the rot will seep in to a degree that their neighbour's house could never achieve, and it is only by the cleaning habits of a small minority of their household that the house remains livable, but the person screaming is too preoccupied with the spectacle next door to actually clean house. What, do they think that the person next door isn't trying to clean? Next door is a much bigger house, and the sewage has started leaking through the now-septic foundations from the burst pipe in the screamer's basement.
Basically just using a different analogy to say that you are spot on. Carry on.
I'll be honest, I had to reread it a couple times, but I think I understand the analogy now. Thanks for your compliment as well.