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Vast majority of Israelis believe there are 'no innocents' in Gaza, says poll
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This myth needs to end. Just because Ashkenazis were hated among their European brethren doesn’t mean Jewish Lebanese, Palestinians, Iraqis and others were despised and persecuted similarly.
This Ashkenazi monopoly on the term Jews needs to be called out for what it is. White supremacy.
Yeah, imma go ahead and say "let's be the only significant minority in medieval Europe" was never going to end well.
Meanwhile, there was no dietary or quasi-polytheism conflict with Muslims. By all accounts relations were usually better, although I'd assume not perfect, and they would have had to pay the extra tax.
It’s not a contest of which group is most persecuted.
The Romani continue to be persecuted in Europe to this day, but I don’t believe there’s a racist, settler colonial movement to carve out an ‘ancestral Romani homeland’ in South Asia and drive out the indigenous inhabitants, based on non-exclusive ties to the land.
I never said it was a contest. I made an observation about why Ashkenazi Jews had a hard time historically, and then agreed that you're probably right about the Sephardis, although I know less detail there.
So Jews are uniquely racist? You see how that's ironic, right?
The difference is the particulars of history, don't try to make it about more than that or you're just another part of the problem.
I never said Ashkenazis are uniquely racist.
The Ashkenazis who invaded and colonized Palestine were driven by a deeply racist ideology, and thus were racists themselves.
Not all Ashkenazis are Jewish. A not-insignificant number of Ashkenazi Americans are atheist. They are Ashkenazi by ethnicity.
We say Jewish Ashkenazi and Atheist Ashkenazi in the same way we say Muslim Palestinian, Christian Palestinian and Jewish Palestinian.
I mean, there's atheist Sephardis too, and we'd still call them Jewish. Conflating Israel or Zionism and Jewishness is bad, but Jews come in multiple types, even if Ashkenazis are the ones that started the Zionist project in earnest.
A good 20-25% of modern Jewish Israelis have a Sephardic background or similar, it looks like. It's not "white people are uniquely racist", either.
It’s the (Eastern European) white-default understanding of Jew, and conflating it with an ethnicity rather than a religious community, that is being called out here.
Because even in occupied Palestine, you have racism by Jewish Europeans against Jewish Africans, even though by their own standards, they are one race, one people.
All this is irrelevant to the root cause of colonialism in occupied Palestine. Peace will come when Ashkenazis and other Jewish immigrants can accept being full and equal citizens under a secular republic where one person gets one vote.
At this point, it seems far more likely they'll succeed in their genocide. They don't really have motive to agree to a two-state solution, even.
What intrinsic hate? Refuting conflating a white European group with a multiethnic religious group is somehow hateful of the whole white European group as a whole?
Nobody forced zionist terrorists to migrate to palestine and force a state on local population thst supposedly according to your stupid progaganda always hated jews. You can read about the yemeni jews who was welcomed by palestine, worked together and participated to each other festivities. You can read about some arab leadership advocating for a one state solution sibce the beginning, you can read zionists leaders statement showing that they was the one who want to destroy palestinians
Are you suggesting that the Jews were not constantly hated, threatened and attacked? That is supposed to be propaganda?
Yes, it's propaganda. Yes, there is period in history where jews where persecuted by Arab and Muslims or Christians and other periods where Arabs and Muslim protected jews . Each pogrom was made by different leadership and circumstance That doesn't make Arabs inherently jews haters and especially not Palestinians who many of them are just jews that converted to Islam.
None of your excuses and selective history usage will change the fact that Zionists forced a state on the local population and ethnically cleansed them during the Nekba including 50000 Christians . Israel is currently occupying Gaza and open about destroying Palestine and Palestinians . Many Zionists doesn't even acknowledge that Palestinians exists
Yes, it is. Jews have been hated and attacked. Like any number of minorities in any number of places around the world.
The reason it's made out to be some kind of natural constant unique to us is because that releases us from any responsibility to consider our own actions. People are always looking for a way off the hook.
In Israel, Jews are much stronger and not too much less numerous. The historical situation is inverted.
Israel is the only aggressor.
77 years is not a long time.
Jews were hated, holocausted etc. prior to the creation of Israel too.
Ashkenazi persecution in Europe does not translate to a universal hatred of Jews as a whole.
"Europeans hate other Europeans, the rest of the world pays the price" could be used to describe many catastrophes in the recent to not so recent past, lol.
Turns out Europe is not the Middle East or Ottoman Empire.
1940s and thereafter does not constitute a long time